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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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TCS Retard vs RPM = 0
2nd TCS Retard vs RPM = 0
Max Torque = 639.0
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if RPM > 6600
if speed < 0

I have no CATS so

COT enabled = False

someone on another site suggested this. I was confused b/c I didn't think an M6 had torque management.
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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I didn't think there was TM in M6 either, but there was a post on our local message board where it was brought up and INTMD8 (Speed Inc's tuner... very knowledgable person who knows his ****) brought up that M6's do indeed have some torque management

I'm guessing the code on the M6 is such that when the clutch is applied it pulls timing in anticipation of the shift
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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As far as TCS set to = 0 wouldn't turn off on the dash do the same thing?
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Magyver
As far as TCS set to = 0 wouldn't turn off on the dash do the same thing?

There's torque management, and traction control (TCS {ASR for the Camaro folks}). Hitting the button to turn on/off TCS/ASR has no effect on torque management. I've heard that there's some interconnection in the tables in LS1Edit between torque management and traction control..but I don't understand it well enough to know if that's true or not.

Mayver, I'm guessing those values are from your car. Do you have traction control or not? I'd like to see how those values compare across a car (one with traction control, one without) of the same transmission type. I'm got one car with traction control, and one without, but unfortunately, one's an M6, and one's an A4..so while I can compare those stock values...I won't know whether the difference is from the traction control or the tranny.
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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There are TQ management tables and then there are TCS tables. M6's pcms pull timming (anda lot of it) for regular tq management. I disabled all of them and left the tcs tables alone since they will save your *** in the rain and the snow. But the regular TQ mngmt tables were all disabled

Retard vs. Tq Reduction
Code:
0	9	13	16	19	21	23	24	26	27	29	30	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	48	49	50	50
Tq Loss vs Spark Retard
Code:
0	0.1	1	2.5	4.8	7.9	11.6	16.1	21.3	27.2	33.8	41.2	49.3	58	67.6	77.8	88.7	100

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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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I have the ASR button. I guess for events like Road Course and AutoXing I should turn it off?
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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Depends. Do you want to be able to spin your tires or would you rather the car kick back the throttle at you when you spin them?
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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you are talking about two different things. The pedal being pushed back is traction control (ASR/TCS). If we intend on spinning the tires chances are we have turned asr off so the pcm wont pull the pedal but it WILL PULL Timing, and we are getting rid of the timing pull and leaving the tcs intact for safety purposes (rain/snow)
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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I'm referring to timing.
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Originally Posted by Magyver
I'm referring to timing.

That was in referece to the person above me
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Well I put in about 8 runs at the track last night and I disable tq mngt for two runs and it didn't do nada. My advice is to leave it alone. Well for MN6 at least.
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how do you disable the torque management?
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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1: Open your editor, go to Edit>Transmission>Torque Management.
2: Set Abuse Mode Enable False
3: Set Abuse Mode RPM, Abuse Mode TPS and Abuse Mode Speed to 0
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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ok thats what mine were all set at
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