PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

Guide to VE tuning using fuel trims

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 20, 2009 | 09:03 AM
  #41  
69LT1Bird's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 6
From: Lapeer, MI
Default

The help file in the software is decent and there are stickies like this one that has lots of information. Paper manuals are only good for the day you print them, if something needs to be changed, you may never know or you may forget to insert the update. I write tech manuals for a living, if an engineering change comes through, I need to change the instructions, it could take months to get that to the field on paper so electronic media is your friend.
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4742
Old May 20, 2009 | 10:41 AM
  #42  
Frost's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,913
Likes: 2
From: Richmond VA
Default

Originally Posted by Braciole
I disagree They should tell you how the software works.
I never said they should teach anyone to tune. Thanks for paying attention
In that case I'd say actually read the Help, all of the functions (not data related, that's tuning) are fully documented.
Old May 20, 2009 | 07:53 PM
  #43  
WS6FirebirdTA00's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,319
Likes: 1
From: North Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Braciole
Welcome to HPTuners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I couldnt agree more
I still cant believe it doesnt come with directions or a friggin manual.
I have countless unanswered questions over there. Im looking else where now. Good luck!
My post was not about HP Tuners, it was about not getting proper injector data from the manufacturer of the injector itself. HP Tuners is a great product. The help files and how tos are extensive. The forum has a lot of great information when you provide the necessary information when asking questions or use the search function.

On that note, the help files explain what they tables are. You are buying programming and interfaces to be able to do tuning. When you buy your computer it is the same thing. There is no magical book that comes with it that tell your how to right a 100 page paper for your thermal fluids design class. Let's be real here. It is a tool. There are explanations on the tables which are very helpful. They can not possibly go into the detail on explaining what to change, how to change it, and why to change it. Some cases, there is no one right answer. The forum is only as useful as you make it. If your questions are not getting answered then you either do not have enough info, the right info, or it has been asked so many times that people are just sick of replying with the same answer.
Old Mar 11, 2010 | 10:09 AM
  #44  
billy.johnson's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Arkansas
Default

This is so helpful
Old Apr 6, 2013 | 07:33 AM
  #45  
Bowtie316's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 616
Likes: 2
From: KC KS
Default

Originally Posted by Black02SS
I am curious as to why you do a Paste - Add first and then a Paste - Multiply % half?
Originally Posted by Silverhawk_02TA
I paste the full value of the STFT histogram at first because the values are (usually) a good ways away from 0 (greater than +/- 5). The second time I use half the value because the STFT's are (again, usually) pretty close to zero, so I want to make a smaller adjustment so I don't overshoot. Using this method, I got very close (STFT's mostly in the +/- 2 range) after the second pass. I actually did more logging and more half value adjustments, but I never really got any closer for my effort.
Old thread I know, but still many people referencing it I'm sure.

I have the same question. I did as the sticky said, paste special - add, and it added way to much. For instance, a particular cell was 67, LTFT was 12 STFT was 3, so it added a total of 15 to the 67 to get 82. Logged it again and it was at -5 total. I was like WTF. Started over, and the second time I did a paste special-multiply by %, and the LTFT + STFT of 15 changed the 67 cell to 77, logged again and it was very close. I had some cells that had LTFT+STFT over 20, this made the difference even greater.

Is my thinking flawed? The fuel trims are percentages right? Then why not always multiply by the percentage?




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:20 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE