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well... it seems confusing.
I'm getting a hptuners for 2 cars.
00 SS
03 Z06
so it should be $500
Since the z06 will be a c5r + twin-turbo, was thinking for the 2-bar option.
extra $300
but from my understanding, i need the I/O extended as well so I can connect the 2-bar connector/sensor which is also required.
+150$ + connector/sensor
Heck... that's doubling the price of the tuner.
It doesn't make sense to me... can someone enlighten me ?
I'm getting a hptuners for 2 cars.
00 SS
03 Z06
so it should be $500
Since the z06 will be a c5r + twin-turbo, was thinking for the 2-bar option.
extra $300
but from my understanding, i need the I/O extended as well so I can connect the 2-bar connector/sensor which is also required.
+150$ + connector/sensor
Heck... that's doubling the price of the tuner.
It doesn't make sense to me... can someone enlighten me ?
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You don't need EIO to use our 2 bar product although it is highly recomended. At those power levels you will want to have a wide band in the vehicle.
The 2bar MAP replaces your stock MAP sensor.. it plugs into the PCM, not our EIO interface.
The 2bar MAP replaces your stock MAP sensor.. it plugs into the PCM, not our EIO interface.
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Well, for those two cars, how much would it cost you for one of those heralded "dyno-tunes?" Maybe $600-$1000??? And chances are it wouldn't be done correct, but with the HPT package you are describing, not only do you get to control the tune yourself (and the quality of this will depend on your level of understanding), but you also can negate the cost of being retuned and can spend as much time as you, the tuner, feel is necessary to dial in the perfect setup. Most of your tuning can be done on the street anyway, so then there's no dyno costs either. So initially you are spending about the same, but in the long run the HPT route will provide you much more value and save money down the road.
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Originally Posted by txhorns281
Well, for those two cars, how much would it cost you for one of those heralded "dyno-tunes?" Maybe $600-$1000??? And chances are it wouldn't be done correct, but with the HPT package you are describing, not only do you get to control the tune yourself (and the quality of this will depend on your level of understanding), but you also can negate the cost of being retuned and can spend as much time as you, the tuner, feel is necessary to dial in the perfect setup. Most of your tuning can be done on the street anyway, so then there's no dyno costs either. So initially you are spending about the same, but in the long run the HPT route will provide you much more value and save money down the road.
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Originally Posted by Magnus
You don't need EIO to use our 2 bar product although it is highly recomended. At those power levels you will want to have a wide band in the vehicle.
The 2bar MAP replaces your stock MAP sensor.. it plugs into the PCM, not our EIO interface.
The 2bar MAP replaces your stock MAP sensor.. it plugs into the PCM, not our EIO interface.
so I guess I cana do the job w/ $500 + 2-bar option for hte Vette ($300).
what exactly is the advantage of the 2-bar over the 1-bar, though ?
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The 2 bar will allow you to read boost up to 14.5 PSI. Your stock MAP sensor will not read any boost.
Your MAF sensor will max out at about 5-6lbs of boost. Any point after that you will not have control over your fuel supply.
The 2bar allows you to remove your MAF and replace your 1 bar MAP sensor with a 2bar and tune your fuel with control up to 14.5 lbs of boost.
Your MAF sensor will max out at about 5-6lbs of boost. Any point after that you will not have control over your fuel supply.
The 2bar allows you to remove your MAF and replace your 1 bar MAP sensor with a 2bar and tune your fuel with control up to 14.5 lbs of boost.
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what happens when boost levels of 14.5psi are wanted.
asking because I think we'll try to go higher... looking for getting at least 1200+rwhp on the z06 on a forged c5r.
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asking because I think we'll try to go higher... looking for getting at least 1200+rwhp on the z06 on a forged c5r.
Thanks.
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another question, is the 3-bar possible upgrade with the present version of hptuners being sold ?
or only possible to get the 2-bar ?
what is the difference in pricing from 2-bar to 3-bar... there is no mention on the www.hptuners.com website.
or only possible to get the 2-bar ?
what is the difference in pricing from 2-bar to 3-bar... there is no mention on the www.hptuners.com website.
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Originally Posted by horist
2 bar goes up to 14.5 or so lbs of boost, 3 bar goes up past that... not sure if 3 bar is being sold yet
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