Anyone have a F13 HP file?
06-12-2005, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ESR
Turo yeah I had the same results coming to a stop idleing a little high but it settles. Im not sure but you pe table is a little low be careful it was running low 14 on air/fuel. I dynoed it and readjusted the PE table and have the airfuel running between 12.5 to 13.3. I think on the top end I was running out of injector or pump not sure one of the two. I could not bring the AFR lower than 13.3. Well anyhow it did 394rwhp and 375 rwtq on a mustang dyno. Which is like a 12 % decrease from a dynojet give or take a few % so it def will pull over 420 on a dynojet. Anyhow if you care to get the file from me give me your email address. Once again nice work on the VE table and idle you saved me alot of time. Im sure my buddy appriciates it too.
Thanks
Eric
Thanks
Eric
Glad to hear the file worked good for you overall. Those are some pretty good numbers for cam-only and bolt-ons!
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06-13-2005, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Turo
Here, you guys can take a look at mine and mess around with it...
http://my.fit.edu/~adonate/public/TURO.bin
The tune isn't perfect, the MAF table needs some small tweaking (its close, but not there yet), and I need a wideband to dial in the PE properly at WOT. If you see anything else I should change let me know
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http://my.fit.edu/~adonate/public/TURO.bin
The tune isn't perfect, the MAF table needs some small tweaking (its close, but not there yet), and I need a wideband to dial in the PE properly at WOT. If you see anything else I should change let me know
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06-13-2005, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Checkmate
It doesn't look like you did any idle adjustments.
06-13-2005, 09:18 AM
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Well, I installed my f13 over the weekend and so far its great. I copied a few tables from Turo's bin file, VE, PE, spark, etc. and the car started right up. It still takes a while to find idle on startup, both cold and hot. Also the A/C usually stalls out the car so ill have to fool with that. I didnt adjust the throttle stop nor did I drill out the hole. Turo's file is good as far as i can see. Great LTFTs and no KR except one spot, which ill address today.
Thanks Turo and everyone else!
-T
Thanks Turo and everyone else!
-T
06-13-2005, 09:31 AM
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f13 Id watch it yeah you probably had like one degree of knock at like 5200-5400 but its running lean I had the same thing on my buddies car. Got it on the dyno and it was running 14.6 afr. Not knocking turo I appriciate the file and it saved me tons of time just watch it if your leaving it that way Id pull back two degrees of timing or bring up the fuel. Im forwarding turo the file tonight email me your email address.
Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Well, I installed my f13 over the weekend and so far its great. I copied a few tables from Turo's bin file, VE, PE, spark, etc. and the car started right up. It still takes a while to find idle on startup, both cold and hot. Also the A/C usually stalls out the car so ill have to fool with that. I didnt adjust the throttle stop nor did I drill out the hole. Turo's file is good as far as i can see. Great LTFTs and no KR except one spot, which ill address today.
Thanks Turo and everyone else!
-T
Thanks Turo and everyone else!
-T
06-13-2005, 09:36 AM
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Ive only run it up to 6000 RPM, but im not getting any knock at all up that high. Im getting knock at 1500-2000 RPM around 20% TPA. If you would se so kind as to forward one to me as well, i would appreciate it greatly. tony@ihearyou.com
Thanks,
-T
Thanks,
-T
Originally Posted by ESR
Id watch it yeah you probably had like one degree of knock at like 5200-5400 but its running lean I had the same thing on my buddies car. Got it on the dyno and it was running 14.6 afr. Not knocking turo I appriciate the file and it saved me tons of time just watch it if your leaving it that way Id pull back two degrees of timing or bring up the fuel. Im forwarding turo the file tonight email me your email address.
06-13-2005, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Ive only run it up to 6000 RPM, but im not getting any knock at all up that high. Im getting knock at 1500-2000 RPM around 20% TPA. If you would se so kind as to forward one to me as well, i would appreciate it greatly. tony@ihearyou.com
Thanks,
-T
Thanks,
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06-14-2005, 01:03 PM
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Here is the link to the updated F13 bin file (HPTuners):
http://my.fit.edu/~adonate/public/TURO2.bin
So in the future, if anyone asks for an F13 file to get started with, tell them to search for this thread
http://my.fit.edu/~adonate/public/TURO2.bin
So in the future, if anyone asks for an F13 file to get started with, tell them to search for this thread
06-14-2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Turo
Here is the link to the updated F13 bin file (HPTuners):
http://my.fit.edu/~adonate/public/TURO2.bin
So in the future, if anyone asks for an F13 file to get started with, tell them to search for this thread
http://my.fit.edu/~adonate/public/TURO2.bin
So in the future, if anyone asks for an F13 file to get started with, tell them to search for this thread
06-15-2005, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
What was actually changed? Just PE increased a little up top?
06-15-2005, 07:48 AM
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Just a note to everyone. I think that it was running out of injector or pump one of the two. More than likely its the pump. but the WOT tune is safe it ranges between a 12.5 to 13.3 afr. 13.3 is a little high but not dangerous at all. This was done off the mustang dyno. Usually when a pump runs out it will run out a little more by the end of a track pass. I will log this on my LM1 AFR Meter once my buddy takes his car to the track. But for now the tune is far more safe than the original no offense turo you saved me a lot of time. hopefull the PE table helped ya out.
Originally Posted by Turo
I believe that was the only change, getting the WOT air-fuel ratio dialed in.
06-15-2005, 08:29 AM
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file I try to stay away from porting mafs and such its something that FI guys tend to frown on due to the trouble of dialing the maf back in and the benefit is so minimal I dont see it being worth the trouble. Since yours is already done though yeah it would through part throttle and idle off pretty much everything. The Maf would need to be recalibrated due to more air flowing throw than it is reading.
Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Hmm, This file seems WAY rich to me. I was running a ton leaner without a hint of knock. I guess the discrepency is because it relies so heavily on the MAF at high RPM, and my MAF table is far from stock since I ported the MAF out.
06-15-2005, 10:41 AM
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Well, I have a stock MAF I could always throw on there for my initial dialing in, but I think im just going to run speed density to dial things in and then ill calibrate the ported MAF to that. With the advent of the all the S-D knowledge around, it seems like wasted time to confirm to a stock MAF as an intermediate step. If i didnt have yearly emissions testing I would consider running SD full time.
06-16-2005, 06:50 AM
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Can anyone post their desired Idle and Base running airflow table?
My idle is still giving me trouble. No matter how high i have the RAF, the stit still jump to .5 after running about 5 seconds.
My idle is still giving me trouble. No matter how high i have the RAF, the stit still jump to .5 after running about 5 seconds.
06-16-2005, 01:37 PM
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I'm very impressed with the VE table so far. I copied that into my current tune and seems to have helped. All the LTFT's were between 2 and -3, but 85% of them in the histogram were -1 or -2 under normal driving.
The PEvsRPM looked pretty lean compared to mine on that file. Mine's close to 10% higher and was dialed in with my wideband. I have the same IFR table also.
Also, the HO spark table looked dangerously high in the WOT areas. If I used that in my car I'd be getting close to 40* at WOT!!
The PEvsRPM looked pretty lean compared to mine on that file. Mine's close to 10% higher and was dialed in with my wideband. I have the same IFR table also.
Also, the HO spark table looked dangerously high in the WOT areas. If I used that in my car I'd be getting close to 40* at WOT!!
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06-16-2005, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1fastWS6
The PEvsRPM looked pretty lean compared to mine on that file. Mine's close to 10% higher and was dialed in with my wideband. I have the same IFR table also.
Originally Posted by 1fastWS6
Also, the HO spark table looked dangerously high in the WOT areas. If I used that in my car I'd be getting close to 40* at WOT!!
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