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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Ok, during some problematic tuning issues with Drew778's car, I had to end up rewriting the entire PCM. When I did, I didnt change the VIN on the file to match his (I pulled a stock tune from the repository with obviously different VIN). So, now he is trying to use Edit but it says wrong VIN. I wrote his old flash back in that had the initial tune and his VIN, but still no luck. I figure since the entire re-write PCM changed the VIN and Edit no longer recognizes it, maybe I need to re-write entire PCM again, but with his VIN #. Is this the fix??

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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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I'm not 100% sure on this...but I think the problem is that edit is locked to the vehicle in question...not by vin... but by vehicle ID....
so the fact that you put in another tune and completely rewrote the OS...changed that vehicle ID...
so put back in his original tune....
what problems were you having anyways....
the fix you need is to use the stock tables...but you neeed to open his....and another at the same time..(click the bins so they each open their own editor...)tab back and forth and copy all of the stock tables over to his...then write it...
that way it keeps his vehicle ID....
or you could go into a hex editor if you knew where to look and manually change the vehicle ID in hex....pain in teh *** to do that though...
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Try writing his original tune back into the vehicle using the rewrite entire..

Then, cycle the IGN per the help files instructions in the Change VIN section. After enough cycles with the proper delay reached, the PCM should take the new VIN from the file (which should be his original VIN)...

Then you can try the other software.

Perhaps that will work.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Thanks. Will try Magnus technique first then the other one if need be. Appreciate it.

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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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HP Tuners told me they do not overwrite the section of the PCM that stores the vin even on a full rewrite. I'm also pretty sure LS1edit looks at something other than just the vin to see if that is what the cable is licensed to.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
HP Tuners told me they do not overwrite the section of the PCM that stores the vin even on a full rewrite.
That is incorrect, the entire flash is written.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gameover
That is incorrect, the entire flash is written.
Then I do not understand what Ken told me in a recent email. Could you elaborate. Here is the problem I emailes support about.
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I kept getting checksum errors while reading the VCM on a 98 T/A. After
the read would complete, I would get an error message saying to try reading
the VCM again or send the bin and log files to support. I tried to read it 3
times and got the same error each time. Here are the files. I need help
ASAP as this is a customers car.

Thank you
Glen
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Hi Glen,
That file is a modified tune from somebody else who did not correct the
checksum properly. As we have no idea what they did to it, you will have
to return the vehicle to a stock with a valid file using re-write entire
VCM. Make sure the battery is fully charged when you do this as there is
always the chance of killing the VCM if the battery is low or dies out.

Ken Cannata
HP Tuners LLC
ken@hptuners.com
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So I should use a stock file from another 98 A4 car? I have plenty of
stoc 98 files to pick from. Can I just pick one and change the VIN to match
this car and do a full rewrite then?
Thanks again.
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Hi Glen,

Use one that is the same operating system.
Then just re-write entire VCM. The VIN should not change as we do not
re-write that section for no reason.
If the VIN does get corrupted for some reason, you can use the scan tool to change it.

Regards,
Ken Cannata
HP Tuners LLC
ken@hptuners.com
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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98's are a special case as they do not store the VIN in the main flash
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Thank you for clearing that up.
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gameover/Ken: Other then changing the VIN, with entire re-write, is there anything else I need to do, check or change? Just would like to know before I attempt this. Thanks

Charlie
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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It worked. Thanks guys. I put the initial tune back in, making sure the VIN was correct, Re-write VCM and then cycled the key as per instructions, and viola Edit see's it now. Drew's happy, which means I can be happy now. Besides I learned a lot through this whole escapade.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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Yes, thanks everyone
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Drew778
Yes, thanks everyone
You got it fixed Drew??? Sweet.
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