Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT Just out of curiosity, why did the 99-00 version come out before the 98 version?
Is it because more 99's were sold than 98's?
I'd think it'd be the other way around.
Is it because more 99's were sold than 98's?
I'd think it'd be the other way around.
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT Jayson, sorry if I made it sound simple. From what I read it's different for the LS1's, but having some pcm tuning experience is still better than none.
The most likely reason for the 99-00 version first is simply: TRUCKS. More of this pcm on the road. 97, 98, 99-00, 01 is the grouping I believe, I havent heard about 02 yet. I wouldnt be suprised if 97 never comes out, probably not enough potential sales to make it profitable.
Ken made a remark on the lt1 edit list about what order he would be working in. Here is the post:
http://www.topica.com/lists/editor/r...?mid=902207808
Looks like it will be 99/00 -> 98 -> 01
Eric
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The most likely reason for the 99-00 version first is simply: TRUCKS. More of this pcm on the road. 97, 98, 99-00, 01 is the grouping I believe, I havent heard about 02 yet. I wouldnt be suprised if 97 never comes out, probably not enough potential sales to make it profitable.
Ken made a remark on the lt1 edit list about what order he would be working in. Here is the post:
http://www.topica.com/lists/editor/r...?mid=902207808
Looks like it will be 99/00 -> 98 -> 01
Eric
[ November 13, 2001: Message edited by: 66ImpalaLT1 ]</p>
Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT [quote]Originally posted by CMNTMXR57:
<strong>Just out of curiosity, why did the 99-00 version come out before the 98 version?
Is it because more 99's were sold than 98's?
I'd think it'd be the other way around.</strong><hr></blockquote>
98's have a completely different computer.
<strong>Just out of curiosity, why did the 99-00 version come out before the 98 version?
Is it because more 99's were sold than 98's?
I'd think it'd be the other way around.</strong><hr></blockquote>
98's have a completely different computer.
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT The guys that have used lt1 edit can probably answer this one (as can the shops using ls1 edit). If your interested in leaving the factory a/f curves but make necessary changes for large cam, converter, gear, code deletes etc, will this require a great deal of knowledge?? I would imagine these type of changes could be done by most people ??
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT [quote]Originally posted by CMNTMXR57:
<strong>I dunno, I FINALLY got my PCM sorted out thanks to Steve Cole and she's running stronger than ever, I'm not so sure you want to turn me loose with a program like LS1 edit on my PCM. <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, unless Steve did something to prevent it. You should be able to save your old pcm code, and tweak it to your liking. If you mess it up, just reload Steve's programming!
Some tuners figured out ways to prevent this for LT1 Edit, I'm sure the same thing will happen for ls1 edit also.
Eric
<strong>I dunno, I FINALLY got my PCM sorted out thanks to Steve Cole and she's running stronger than ever, I'm not so sure you want to turn me loose with a program like LS1 edit on my PCM. <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, unless Steve did something to prevent it. You should be able to save your old pcm code, and tweak it to your liking. If you mess it up, just reload Steve's programming!
Some tuners figured out ways to prevent this for LT1 Edit, I'm sure the same thing will happen for ls1 edit also.
Eric
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT If that's so, I don't care then. But with all the programming problems I've had with it (speak to Ed Wright about that), I'm wary to mess with it now that it's running like a gorilla.
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT Just as interested in LS1-Edit I am, I'm more interestd in retro-fitting a 99 PCM to a 98.
Seems Ls1 Edit won't be available for 98's for 6-9 months after the initial release, and quite honestly I've heard about Ls1 Edit for 3 years now, so I'm not holding my breath.
Seems Ls1 Edit won't be available for 98's for 6-9 months after the initial release, and quite honestly I've heard about Ls1 Edit for 3 years now, so I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT Even the tuners that try to make it so LT1 Edit is unusable on it, cant stop you from doing it. It wasnt too hard to change an Ed Wright program so that LT1 Edit could play with it <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT [quote]Wow, a post by "The Man" himself<hr></blockquote>
Thanks Patrick!! I know its been a while since I have been posting but thought I would check out the new board.. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
Thanks Patrick!! I know its been a while since I have been posting but thought I would check out the new board.. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT [quote]Originally posted by CMNTMXR57:
<strong>Just out of curiosity, why did the 99-00 version come out before the 98 version?
Is it because more 99's were sold than 98's?
I'd think it'd be the other way around.</strong><hr></blockquote>
In 99-00 GM used the same ECM for the F-body, C5 and some trucks Vs. 97-98 C5 and 98 F-body. The guys working on it wanted to come out with a first version that would cover the most amount of vehicles.
Julio
<strong>Just out of curiosity, why did the 99-00 version come out before the 98 version?
Is it because more 99's were sold than 98's?
I'd think it'd be the other way around.</strong><hr></blockquote>
In 99-00 GM used the same ECM for the F-body, C5 and some trucks Vs. 97-98 C5 and 98 F-body. The guys working on it wanted to come out with a first version that would cover the most amount of vehicles.
Julio
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT [quote]Originally posted by msce2b-dustin:
<strong>The guys that have used lt1 edit can probably answer this one (as can the shops using ls1 edit). If your interested in leaving the factory a/f curves but make necessary changes for large cam, converter, gear, code deletes etc, will this require a great deal of knowledge?? I would imagine these type of changes could be done by most people ??</strong><hr></blockquote>
The cam will require adjustments to fuel at idle and at WOT. Gears, tire size, fans etc is pretty straightforward.
Anyone who is on the fence about getting this software, join the LT1 Edit list now and start reading. It will probably be overwhelming at first but things start to make sense and you will see how they all work together. It is a very handy tool and is much better when you can adjust your files at any time and can try 50 programs in one day if you want <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> I am a very happy user of LT1 Edit and will consider getting it for my SS as well.
<strong>The guys that have used lt1 edit can probably answer this one (as can the shops using ls1 edit). If your interested in leaving the factory a/f curves but make necessary changes for large cam, converter, gear, code deletes etc, will this require a great deal of knowledge?? I would imagine these type of changes could be done by most people ??</strong><hr></blockquote>
The cam will require adjustments to fuel at idle and at WOT. Gears, tire size, fans etc is pretty straightforward.
Anyone who is on the fence about getting this software, join the LT1 Edit list now and start reading. It will probably be overwhelming at first but things start to make sense and you will see how they all work together. It is a very handy tool and is much better when you can adjust your files at any time and can try 50 programs in one day if you want <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> I am a very happy user of LT1 Edit and will consider getting it for my SS as well.
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT I can certainly see where we might need to add an LS1 Edit forum. Maybe let Autotap and MAFT stuff go in there too.
Jayson "The Man" Cohen <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> , I wished I lived in Houston so I could be a part of MTI's learning experience on LS1 Edit. <img src="images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
(Thinking it might be time for another visit within the next few months.)
Jayson "The Man" Cohen <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> , I wished I lived in Houston so I could be a part of MTI's learning experience on LS1 Edit. <img src="images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
(Thinking it might be time for another visit within the next few months.)
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT I'll hopefully have all the necessary bench programming hardware here soon so that I can begin making some changes for you guys on this board!
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT I knew they were different PCM's, I just wanted to know why the earlier car didn't get the aftermarket help first. But I understand the "economies of scale" thing.
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Re: Lets talk PCM tuning and LS1-EDIT [quote]Originally posted by Colonel:
<strong>I can certainly see where we might need to add an LS1 Edit forum. Maybe let Autotap and MAFT stuff go in there too.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Just make it a "Computer Diagnostics and Tuning" Forum or the reverse. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> There are also some really good tutorials:
http://para.noid.org/~lj - LJs site
http://www.slowcar.net/LT1Edit.htm - ChrisB's site
Both are a must read.
Brett
<strong>I can certainly see where we might need to add an LS1 Edit forum. Maybe let Autotap and MAFT stuff go in there too.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Just make it a "Computer Diagnostics and Tuning" Forum or the reverse. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> There are also some really good tutorials:
http://para.noid.org/~lj - LJs site
http://www.slowcar.net/LT1Edit.htm - ChrisB's site
Both are a must read.
Brett
