LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash Yes, that is correct.
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash 99 and up are the same.
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Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash Careful here!
You must NOT rely on LS1_Edit (in its current incarnation) to fully change a PCM from one model to another.
LS1_Edit only works on portions of the memory inside the PCM - the data portions. It leaves the engine portions unchanged. Therefore, if you attempt to use LS1_Edit to flash a program in to a PCM for which it was not intended, you could cause problems - data table alignment mismatch.
For example, I just got my spare PCM for my '98. It's out of a '99 454ci truck. If I were to use LS1_Edit to program it (it won't, btw), LS1_Edit would only program the DATA portion, but not the ENGINE portion. The tables would be mismatched, and I would probably hose the PCM.
What needs to happen is that you use something like the SPS (Service Programming System, Ease Diagnostics at http://www.easesim.com sells it for $1800, dealerships have it as well) to COMPLETELY reprogram the PCM, including VIN and stock flash. That will get the engine and data tables matching. THEN, and only then, can you use LS1_Edit on it.
Ken (of LS1_Edit) has the SPS system, and can do this for a nominal fee (I believe <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> ). I'm sure there are others out there who have it as well.
So, be VERY careful when thinking like this. You could cause SERIOUS problems if you don't use the right tools.
-Andrew
You must NOT rely on LS1_Edit (in its current incarnation) to fully change a PCM from one model to another.
LS1_Edit only works on portions of the memory inside the PCM - the data portions. It leaves the engine portions unchanged. Therefore, if you attempt to use LS1_Edit to flash a program in to a PCM for which it was not intended, you could cause problems - data table alignment mismatch.
For example, I just got my spare PCM for my '98. It's out of a '99 454ci truck. If I were to use LS1_Edit to program it (it won't, btw), LS1_Edit would only program the DATA portion, but not the ENGINE portion. The tables would be mismatched, and I would probably hose the PCM.
What needs to happen is that you use something like the SPS (Service Programming System, Ease Diagnostics at http://www.easesim.com sells it for $1800, dealerships have it as well) to COMPLETELY reprogram the PCM, including VIN and stock flash. That will get the engine and data tables matching. THEN, and only then, can you use LS1_Edit on it.
Ken (of LS1_Edit) has the SPS system, and can do this for a nominal fee (I believe <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> ). I'm sure there are others out there who have it as well.
So, be VERY careful when thinking like this. You could cause SERIOUS problems if you don't use the right tools.
-Andrew
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash i think when he says to flash the 00 pcm into it he means that he will take the WHOLE package from an 00 and completely wipe out the 01 information. i think this can be done at a dealer. technically there wouldnt be anything dealing with 01 in it. of course, i dont know how the EGR would work.
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash The newer PCM's are still capable of supporting EGR (for the trucks), so that is no problem. If you flash a 99-00 VIN into a 2001 PCM, the EGR functions normally.
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Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
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Verdad Gallardo Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash Yah, as long as he has the PCM fully programmed, he might be OK (I don't know). I have been using LT1_Edit for about 2 1/2 years now, and we're used to changing programs with a simple PCM flash with PCMprog. You can change from a PCM from a '94 L99 A4 to a '95 LT1 M6 with a simple flash using LT1_Edit's tools. Not so with LS1's, and that's what I'm trying to warn against.
-Andrew
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash An '01 PCM can be flashed to a '00 for use with LS1Edit. I believe the dealership charges something like $65 bucks to do.
I know someone else that's going to have to do this as well.
I know someone else that's going to have to do this as well.
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From: Anderson, Indiana
Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash Correct. We've done it SEVERAL times here, and can take care of anyone who needs it done. Many dealerships aren't very accommodating on this kind of stuff!
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91 Z28 LS2 408CI, LS9 Supercharger, LPE GT7 cam, Yank3000, 3450 raceweight.
Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash For Insurance purposes, they will look at the VIN label on the car and not the PCM. So changing a digit or two to make it appear to be another year on the PCM should not be an issue.
Rick
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Re: LS1 Edit 01 PCM and 00 Flash How does that affect vehicle registration/etc???
do they need to generate a new VIN number for you? I would think that for insurance and registration purposes that this could be a problem.
do they need to generate a new VIN number for you? I would think that for insurance and registration purposes that this could be a problem.
