EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT
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EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT hello all i am new to this and i dont know how the program get changed using the efilive 5.6 ver or ls1 edit, and hppt3 can some some tell me... i thought it reburnd the eprom on the computer chip every time you made a change.
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Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT exactly .... it overwrites the program in the prom.
HPP is OK if you just want "plug and play" with no control over your tuning. I'm planning to get LS1 Edit next year.
<small>[ December 09, 2002, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: rncotton ]</small>
HPP is OK if you just want "plug and play" with no control over your tuning. I'm planning to get LS1 Edit next year.
<small>[ December 09, 2002, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: rncotton ]</small>
Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT This thread from yesterday should answer that:
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...;f=23;t=003355
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...;f=23;t=003355
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Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by navyz28:
<strong>thanks that is what i was thinking, so how many times can we rewrite the epom? anyone know? <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
and does anyone know how much better autotap EFILIVE is over LS1 Edit? i do know that you cant do logs and montoring with Ls1.. but other then that i did not see any diff's....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">G.M quit using E-proms starting in 1996 which from then till present uses flash memory.
Its not the Program that gets changed, it is the calibration tables that also reside in part of the flash.
The flash can be overwritten many times, I use my car as a testbed and have flashed it at least 25 times with no problems.
Older cars using an E-prom chip can be erased and overwritten but when I do a custom tunes for older cars being a blank e-prom is only a few dollars I use a new e-prom just to be safe.
LS1edit is the ONLY product that allows you to change many functions in the PCM and their values, the black box types you mention only allow minor changes and give little ability for you to dicate what the values will be.
<strong>thanks that is what i was thinking, so how many times can we rewrite the epom? anyone know? <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
and does anyone know how much better autotap EFILIVE is over LS1 Edit? i do know that you cant do logs and montoring with Ls1.. but other then that i did not see any diff's....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">G.M quit using E-proms starting in 1996 which from then till present uses flash memory.
Its not the Program that gets changed, it is the calibration tables that also reside in part of the flash.
The flash can be overwritten many times, I use my car as a testbed and have flashed it at least 25 times with no problems.
Older cars using an E-prom chip can be erased and overwritten but when I do a custom tunes for older cars being a blank e-prom is only a few dollars I use a new e-prom just to be safe.
LS1edit is the ONLY product that allows you to change many functions in the PCM and their values, the black box types you mention only allow minor changes and give little ability for you to dicate what the values will be.
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Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT correction 1994 & 1995 are flash as well... 1993 was the last year for the eprom or chip
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Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by navyz28:
<strong>thanks that is what i was thinking, so how many times can we rewrite the epom? anyone know? <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
and does anyone know how much better autotap EFILIVE is over LS1 Edit? i do know that you cant do logs and montoring with Ls1.. but other then that i did not see any diff's....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">EFILIVE is bi-directional as in you can edit the pcm tables but it will lose all changes when you shut the car off and or unplug the cable. Also it is a scan tool of sorts. LS-1 Edit is a tool used for making permanent changes to the pcm. "can be changed as often as you want" and will stay in the PCM untill you reflash it with changes. But It will not tell you whats going on with the car, you would need a scan tool like auto-tap or EFILIVE5 for that or even TechII scanner.
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<strong>thanks that is what i was thinking, so how many times can we rewrite the epom? anyone know? <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
and does anyone know how much better autotap EFILIVE is over LS1 Edit? i do know that you cant do logs and montoring with Ls1.. but other then that i did not see any diff's....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">EFILIVE is bi-directional as in you can edit the pcm tables but it will lose all changes when you shut the car off and or unplug the cable. Also it is a scan tool of sorts. LS-1 Edit is a tool used for making permanent changes to the pcm. "can be changed as often as you want" and will stay in the PCM untill you reflash it with changes. But It will not tell you whats going on with the car, you would need a scan tool like auto-tap or EFILIVE5 for that or even TechII scanner.
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Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT thanks that is what i was thinking, so how many times can we rewrite the epom? anyone know? <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
and does anyone know how much better autotap EFILIVE is over LS1 Edit? i do know that you cant do logs and montoring with Ls1.. but other then that i did not see any diff's....
and does anyone know how much better autotap EFILIVE is over LS1 Edit? i do know that you cant do logs and montoring with Ls1.. but other then that i did not see any diff's....
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Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT Jon thanks for the info clears up alot for me, much Appreciated, reading the specs on EFIlive from AutoTap they claim to do it all... checked out the specs on both Ls1Edit and EfiLive.
is thier some info i am missing? again i am new so please pass info so i dont sound like a total dum a@@... <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
is thier some info i am missing? again i am new so please pass info so i dont sound like a total dum a@@... <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />
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Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT sorry protuner i missed your reply but that, is what i need to know... you hit it right on... so
i should be able to turn off the speed limiter as long as the program is running, but shut it down and the setting goes back to on... whitch is the problem i was having.
so guys with that cleard up and thanks for all your wisedom. would it be safter to test the new settings with EFILive and test the car. then use LS1 Edit to complete the tune? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
i should be able to turn off the speed limiter as long as the program is running, but shut it down and the setting goes back to on... whitch is the problem i was having.
so guys with that cleard up and thanks for all your wisedom. would it be safter to test the new settings with EFILive and test the car. then use LS1 Edit to complete the tune? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Re: EFILIVE/HPPT3/LS1EDIT </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by navyz28:
<strong>i should be able to turn off the speed limiter as long as the program is running, but shut it down and the setting goes back to on... whitch is the problem i was having.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The concept is correct - only EFILiveV5 does not allow you to alter the vehicle's speed limiter.
Here is a list of the controls that EFILiveV5 supports: EFILiveV5 controls
<strong>i should be able to turn off the speed limiter as long as the program is running, but shut it down and the setting goes back to on... whitch is the problem i was having.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The concept is correct - only EFILiveV5 does not allow you to alter the vehicle's speed limiter.
Here is a list of the controls that EFILiveV5 supports: EFILiveV5 controls
