EFI live or HPtuners to tune a FI C5?
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
EFI calls it autotune....
HP Tuners calls it SD tuning...
its the same dam thing on both.....
both use AFR error % to tell you how far off the VE table is....
dam I'm bitchy tonight.....
the band is gonna hate me when I get off the tour bus here in an hour to go mix....
HP Tuners calls it SD tuning...
its the same dam thing on both.....
both use AFR error % to tell you how far off the VE table is....
dam I'm bitchy tonight.....
the band is gonna hate me when I get off the tour bus here in an hour to go mix....
AutoVE. AutoTune is owned by someone else (non HPT or Live).
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(hump) is there nothing you like about hptuners? is efi live on some other platform? they both tune a car. does efi do it faster, better, easier? the pcm's all have the same info, how can efi be so much better? learn to be humble. people see this. if i was in this guys position i would wonder. i dont like people that cant say anything nice about other people. i have never had a bad experience with hptuners. i have gotten inperson help before. i dont have to be a tunershop. i am a regular hobbiest. i think efi seems like a great product, but hptuners had what i needed when i made my decision. 98 support. you guys seem to be doing well. your just so damn pushy. like car salesmen.
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Originally Posted by bmfcamaro
sound always gives props to both. you guys cant say one good thing about tuners (like way to go for ford and dodge tuning). anything. wow. lets push our products and bash everyone else. pretty sad.
Also, I am curious bmf, besides HPT, what other tuning package have you owned personally and used on a constant basis. I know of several in this thread that own several and can make the statements we do.
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Originally Posted by bmfcamaro
is there nothing you like about hptuners? is efi live on some other platform?
they both tune a car. does efi do it faster, better, easier? the pcm's all have the same info, how can efi be so much better?
learn to be humble. people see this. if i was in this guys position i would wonder.
i dont like people that cant say anything nice about other people. i have never had a bad experience with hptuners.
i think efi seems like a great product, but hptuners had what i needed when i made my decision. 98 support. you guys seem to be doing well. your just so damn pushy. like car salesmen.
Sorry you feel that way I am just listing out everything that makes me happy about my purchase. I cant help that it makes you feel that way
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Originally Posted by Black02SS
You know, I did this on YOUR forum and guess what, it got locked... Here is a screen shot though if guys don't remember what I typed.
Also, I am curious bmf, besides HPT, what other tuning package have you owned personally and used on a constant basis. I know of several in this thread that own several and can make the statements we do.
Also, I am curious bmf, besides HPT, what other tuning package have you owned personally and used on a constant basis. I know of several in this thread that own several and can make the statements we do.
yea...I'm not to happy about that either...I posted something that they didnt like too....
but it is their site...so its their decision
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
yea...I'm not to happy about that either...I posted something that they didnt like too....
but it is their site...so its their decision
but it is their site...so its their decision
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
EFILive is the only way I fly. Free custom os's unprecedented customer attention/support. More available PIDs than the competition. CURRENTLY and in the FUTURE more standard features than the competiition (ie scanning, flashing, unlimted logging all from the interface box and to many more to list) better pricing (the competition will use voodoo math to try and sway you), only full tuning suite with custom operating sysstem for the GM duramax and soon to be LS2/Ls7/Allison transmission tuning. Who could ask for more I would go on all night but eventually I will prolly get silenced and me and my buddies will have to take a screen shot of this thread for our own personal archives
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who wants to start a thread where the only people who can respond are thoose that have owned both? I mean full on show me your reciepts both. It would help me decide. Ill create it if someone will make sure and delete all posts that dont have a picture of either both cables side by side or the reciepts. No EFI only people can post and no HPT only can post. better be the same camera that takes the pictures also.
Anyone think its a good idea? If you feel strongly one way or the other then get the pictures and post up.
Done with the Hi Jack.
Anyone think its a good idea? If you feel strongly one way or the other then get the pictures and post up.
Done with the Hi Jack.
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Originally Posted by Spenser309
who wants to start a thread where the only people who can respond are thoose that have owned both? I mean full on show me your reciepts both. It would help me decide. Ill create it if someone will make sure and delete all posts that dont have a picture of either both cables side by side or the reciepts. No EFI only people can post and no HPT only can post. better be the same camera that takes the pictures also.
Anyone think its a good idea? If you feel strongly one way or the other then get the pictures and post up.
Done with the Hi Jack.
Anyone think its a good idea? If you feel strongly one way or the other then get the pictures and post up.
Done with the Hi Jack.
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Some of you guys carry on too much, and show a bias a mile wide.
To be honest, I'd rather just see users post once, rather than carry on for a few pages.
I like the trade-in deal you can get with HPT, if they still do it.
And I have never owned EFI or HPT, but would pick HPT because I think the software is well done.
To be honest, I'd rather just see users post once, rather than carry on for a few pages.
I like the trade-in deal you can get with HPT, if they still do it.
And I have never owned EFI or HPT, but would pick HPT because I think the software is well done.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
And I have never owned EFI or HPT, but would pick HPT because I think the software is well done.
see i heard from a user, i would hand out his name but dont want him to get flamed for what he said in private, that the guy learned .net while he was writing the code for vs 1.7. I cant comment if this is a bad thing because ive never written much in .net, but with java, and c++, theres little things you can do to make the programs faster, less buggy, and take up less space.
However, aside from this you got to look at this from the broad spectrum of what these companies are actually doing. There doing something that the LS1 Computer wasnt supposed to do, or HACKING THE COMPUTER. Theres bound to be bugs, not only because of the embedded computers limits for memory and speed, but the fact that HPT and EFI both need to convert the file from binary to assembly. Like in any language change theres gonna be errors? Like how you say pimp in English dont have the same meaning in German.
Anyways, i just think yall need to look at this from the broad spectrum and stop being so closeminded. What you should be buying is not just the product but the support that goes with it. Look at linux for example, you can buy RED Hat linux for iono 100 bucks, but there tech support iono it aint perfect and it aint personal. Or you could buy Blue Cat(my father works for this company) at say 150 for 1 license, but the support and R&D with Blue Cat is a work of art. If windows dont cut it(predator) but you dont have any experience with almost realtime os's, and dont want to learn. Which do you choose?
of course if you have the need go for the stars and by LYNX OS. Realtime US Army approved, ran in the future combat systems, bullet train and mobile howlitzer loading system. KINDA like BS3. Iono ignore this last paragraph its me taking the **** to far.