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O2 Sensor Anyone have the part #'s for the O2 sensors on a 01' Trans Am? I'm tires of taking it to the dealer for O2 sensor problems and they keep sayibg that there is nothing wrong with them. I want to replace all 4 sensors and get it over with......Scott
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Re: O2 Sensor 25312196 RH O2 sensor
25312197 LH O2 Sensor
Replacing all four could be a pretty expensive proposition... I think they run near $70 each... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
What problems are you having?
25312197 LH O2 Sensor
Replacing all four could be a pretty expensive proposition... I think they run near $70 each... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
What problems are you having?
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SScott:
<strong> 25312196 RH O2 sensor
25312197 LH O2 Sensor
Replacing all four could be a pretty expensive proposition... I think they run near $70 each... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
What problems are you having? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was looking at the sensors with a tap and the fronts bank 1 sensor 1 is reading 350-450 at idle bank 2 sensor 2 is reading at 500-650 at idle, bank 1 sensor 2 is reading 250-300, and bank 2 sensor 2 is reading 050-075. I just assume replace all 4 at the same time given they are not alot of $$$. The codes I keep getting are 1133, 1153, 0133, 0153, 1416. I looked them up on http://.service.gm.com and they all relate to O2 sensors......Scott
<strong> 25312196 RH O2 sensor
25312197 LH O2 Sensor
Replacing all four could be a pretty expensive proposition... I think they run near $70 each... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
What problems are you having? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was looking at the sensors with a tap and the fronts bank 1 sensor 1 is reading 350-450 at idle bank 2 sensor 2 is reading at 500-650 at idle, bank 1 sensor 2 is reading 250-300, and bank 2 sensor 2 is reading 050-075. I just assume replace all 4 at the same time given they are not alot of $$$. The codes I keep getting are 1133, 1153, 0133, 0153, 1416. I looked them up on http://.service.gm.com and they all relate to O2 sensors......Scott
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SScott:
<strong> Do you happen to have long tube headers installed? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">NO. See Sig for mods.....Scott
<strong> Do you happen to have long tube headers installed? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">NO. See Sig for mods.....Scott
Re: O2 Sensor Those are all codes for the front O2's. Not sure what the P1416 is though.
If your going to replace all of them, will you send me your old ones? I need a few to experiment with. I'll pay shipping.
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If your going to replace all of them, will you send me your old ones? I need a few to experiment with. I'll pay shipping.
Craig
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1fastWS6:
<strong> Those are all codes for the front O2's. Not sure what the P1416 is though.
If your going to replace all of them, will you send me your old ones? I need a few to experiment with. I'll pay shipping.
Craig
onefastws6@hotmail.com </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The car is at the dealer now, let me see if they can figure out what's going on. If they can't I'm going to replace them and if I do you can have the old 1s........Scott
<strong> Those are all codes for the front O2's. Not sure what the P1416 is though.
If your going to replace all of them, will you send me your old ones? I need a few to experiment with. I'll pay shipping.
Craig
onefastws6@hotmail.com </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The car is at the dealer now, let me see if they can figure out what's going on. If they can't I'm going to replace them and if I do you can have the old 1s........Scott
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Re: O2 Sensor 1416 has to do with your AIR pump. Located under the fuse boxes on the driver side of the engine bay. Directly behind the fog light. Check to see if the air pump is operating or inop. Only comes on at cold start. (In the morning is always good time to check this) It runs for about 5 mins.
1133 and 1153 front O2's (pretty much not working)
Thats the short answer. I can see you know the numbers are too stable. For these to "go bad" at the same time seems like something else is the cause of this code.
0133 and 0153 slow response. WHEN THESE CODES LIGHT AT THE SAME TIME: (straight out of GM service manual) it is a strong indication of fuel contamination. ADVISE the customer to try a different fuel company.
Causes : Bad fuel
Bad Fuel filter
Exhaust leak 6-12 inches from HO2S
Poor grounding, poor alternator
Improper use of RTV (silicone) sealant
RTV can ruin O2 sensors if you use it on
exhaust manifolds, block off plates, ect.
1133 and 1153 front O2's (pretty much not working)
Thats the short answer. I can see you know the numbers are too stable. For these to "go bad" at the same time seems like something else is the cause of this code.
0133 and 0153 slow response. WHEN THESE CODES LIGHT AT THE SAME TIME: (straight out of GM service manual) it is a strong indication of fuel contamination. ADVISE the customer to try a different fuel company.
Causes : Bad fuel
Bad Fuel filter
Exhaust leak 6-12 inches from HO2S
Poor grounding, poor alternator
Improper use of RTV (silicone) sealant
RTV can ruin O2 sensors if you use it on
exhaust manifolds, block off plates, ect.
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Re: O2 Sensor SCONNOR, if none of the above is a problem, have you tried running your car without a MAFT for a few weeks? You might want to let the PCM learn some of the lean/rich condition without the MAFT, keep checking your Fuel Trims and see if you can stabilize them without the MAFT. Of course, you need working O2's for that. I wouldn't advise it if you are running lean without the MAFT. Rich is okay for ahile.
Oh, if you do replace sensors, just get O2 simms for the back two. $98 a pair.
Oh, if you do replace sensors, just get O2 simms for the back two. $98 a pair.
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000WhiteZ28:
<strong> 1416 has to do with your AIR pump. Located under the fuse boxes on the driver side of the engine bay. Directly behind the fog light. Check to see if the air pump is operating or inop. Only comes on at cold start. (In the morning is always good time to check this) It runs for about 5 mins.
1133 and 1153 front O2's (pretty much not working)
Thats the short answer. I can see you know the numbers are too stable. For these to "go bad" at the same time seems like something else is the cause of this code.
0133 and 0153 slow response. WHEN THESE CODES LIGHT AT THE SAME TIME: (straight out of GM service manual) it is a strong indication of fuel contamination. ADVISE the customer to try a different fuel company.
Causes : Bad fuel
Bad Fuel filter
Exhaust leak 6-12 inches from HO2S
Poor grounding, poor alternator
Improper use of RTV (silicone) sealant
RTV can ruin O2 sensors if you use it on
exhaust manifolds, block off plates, ect. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for the info. I just got the car back and the dealer replaced both front O2 sensors. P1416 has only came on 2 times in the last year. Seems like they got the problem solved but only time will tell.....Scott
<strong> 1416 has to do with your AIR pump. Located under the fuse boxes on the driver side of the engine bay. Directly behind the fog light. Check to see if the air pump is operating or inop. Only comes on at cold start. (In the morning is always good time to check this) It runs for about 5 mins.
1133 and 1153 front O2's (pretty much not working)
Thats the short answer. I can see you know the numbers are too stable. For these to "go bad" at the same time seems like something else is the cause of this code.
0133 and 0153 slow response. WHEN THESE CODES LIGHT AT THE SAME TIME: (straight out of GM service manual) it is a strong indication of fuel contamination. ADVISE the customer to try a different fuel company.
Causes : Bad fuel
Bad Fuel filter
Exhaust leak 6-12 inches from HO2S
Poor grounding, poor alternator
Improper use of RTV (silicone) sealant
RTV can ruin O2 sensors if you use it on
exhaust manifolds, block off plates, ect. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for the info. I just got the car back and the dealer replaced both front O2 sensors. P1416 has only came on 2 times in the last year. Seems like they got the problem solved but only time will tell.....Scott
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000WhiteZ28:
<strong> SCONNOR, if none of the above is a problem, have you tried running your car without a MAFT for a few weeks? You might want to let the PCM learn some of the lean/rich condition without the MAFT, keep checking your Fuel Trims and see if you can stabilize them without the MAFT. Of course, you need working O2's for that. I wouldn't advise it if you are running lean without the MAFT. Rich is okay for ahile.
Oh, if you do replace sensors, just get O2 simms for the back two. $98 a pair. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dude I tried using O2 sims when I had my ORP's on and they went bad and gave me a bunch of problems. I don't want to use them again....Scott
<strong> SCONNOR, if none of the above is a problem, have you tried running your car without a MAFT for a few weeks? You might want to let the PCM learn some of the lean/rich condition without the MAFT, keep checking your Fuel Trims and see if you can stabilize them without the MAFT. Of course, you need working O2's for that. I wouldn't advise it if you are running lean without the MAFT. Rich is okay for ahile.
Oh, if you do replace sensors, just get O2 simms for the back two. $98 a pair. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dude I tried using O2 sims when I had my ORP's on and they went bad and gave me a bunch of problems. I don't want to use them again....Scott
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by roadrunner-r:
<strong> Your running rich. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm thinking the same. Maybe due to all the TB and aftermarket MAF mods. Maybe the MAFT is not correct because the PCM is totally confused by these mods. Maybe this needs to be tuned via O2 Mv instead of LTFT's. ??????? I'd take the MAFT off and drive it for a few weeks with those new sensors.
<strong> Your running rich. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm thinking the same. Maybe due to all the TB and aftermarket MAF mods. Maybe the MAFT is not correct because the PCM is totally confused by these mods. Maybe this needs to be tuned via O2 Mv instead of LTFT's. ??????? I'd take the MAFT off and drive it for a few weeks with those new sensors.
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000WhiteZ28:
<strong> I have yet to hear of a bad O2 simm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I put them on and they worked great for about 4 months, then me SES light came on said there was no activity from the rear sensors. Car was runing real bad. Put the Cats and O2's back in and it was fine. Then I started getting the SES light on about a month later for the problem I was just having.....Scott
<strong> I have yet to hear of a bad O2 simm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I put them on and they worked great for about 4 months, then me SES light came on said there was no activity from the rear sensors. Car was runing real bad. Put the Cats and O2's back in and it was fine. Then I started getting the SES light on about a month later for the problem I was just having.....Scott
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000WhiteZ28:
<strong> I have yet to hear of a bad O2 simm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">O2 simms die all the time. I have two friends that had theirs die on them.
<strong> I have yet to hear of a bad O2 simm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">O2 simms die all the time. I have two friends that had theirs die on them.
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Re: O2 Sensor </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by speedAD'ic:
<strong> hey if you email me about ur broken O2 sims i can talk to my friend who owns Caspers (they make the sims) and you send me your broken one and ill send you a new one </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks but I got really POed and threw them out. It was just one of those spur of th moment decisions. But I appreciate the offer.....Scott
<strong> hey if you email me about ur broken O2 sims i can talk to my friend who owns Caspers (they make the sims) and you send me your broken one and ill send you a new one </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks but I got really POed and threw them out. It was just one of those spur of th moment decisions. But I appreciate the offer.....Scott
