Using AutoTap to see if injectors are maxed out?
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On AutoTap, which parameter do I log to see how close to "maxed out" my fuel injectors are? Is it the "injector pulsewidth" value, which ranges from 0 to 1000? And if that's the one to watch, at what point are the injectors "maxed out?" 1000? Sooner?
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Injector Pulse Width Average (that's each bank).
Maybe around 20 ms at 6000? Someone here will know the forumula.
Maybe around 20 ms at 6000? Someone here will know the forumula.
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rpm = revolutions per minute
rpms = revolutions per millisecond
Max INJPW = Maximum injector pulse width
rpms = rpm/60000 (60000 converts minutes to milliseconds)
Max INJPW = 2/rpms (2 revolutions to complete one 4 stroke cycle)
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> rpm rpms Max INJPW
10 0.00017 12000
100 0.00167 1200
1000 0.01667 120
2000 0.03333 60
3000 0.05000 40
4000 0.06667 30
5000 0.08333 24
6000 0.10000 20</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
rpms = revolutions per millisecond
Max INJPW = Maximum injector pulse width
rpms = rpm/60000 (60000 converts minutes to milliseconds)
Max INJPW = 2/rpms (2 revolutions to complete one 4 stroke cycle)
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> rpm rpms Max INJPW
10 0.00017 12000
100 0.00167 1200
1000 0.01667 120
2000 0.03333 60
3000 0.05000 40
4000 0.06667 30
5000 0.08333 24
6000 0.10000 20</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
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IMHO, it is math like this that gets people into thinking their injectors are just fine, you do NOT want to run injectors STATIC at 100% duty cycle and that is what your doing with those values. At 6,000 RPMs it would be 16 mS maximum not 20mS.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by EFIliveV5:
<strong> rpm = revolutions per minute
rpms = revolutions per millisecond
Max INJPW = Maximum injector pulse width
rpms = rpm/60000 (60000 converts minutes to milliseconds)
Max INJPW = 2/rpms (2 revolutions to complete one 4 stroke cycle)
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> rpm rpms Max INJPW
10 0.00017 12000
100 0.00167 1200
1000 0.01667 120
2000 0.03333 60
3000 0.05000 40
4000 0.06667 30
5000 0.08333 24
6000 0.10000 20</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by EFIliveV5:
<strong> rpm = revolutions per minute
rpms = revolutions per millisecond
Max INJPW = Maximum injector pulse width
rpms = rpm/60000 (60000 converts minutes to milliseconds)
Max INJPW = 2/rpms (2 revolutions to complete one 4 stroke cycle)
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> rpm rpms Max INJPW
10 0.00017 12000
100 0.00167 1200
1000 0.01667 120
2000 0.03333 60
3000 0.05000 40
4000 0.06667 30
5000 0.08333 24
6000 0.10000 20</pre><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Team ZR-1:
[QB] IMHO, it is math like this that gets people into thinking their injectors are just fine, you do NOT want to run injectors STATIC at 100% duty cycle and that is what your doing with those values. At 6,000 RPMs it would be 16 mS maximum not 20mS.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree John, they are misleading. My apologies to anyone who misunderstood the math, I should have added what you said to my post. The purely theoretical numbers that I posted do not take into account (among other things) the opening/closing times of the injectors. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Just for comparison, could you explain the figures/reasoning behind why you say 16ms (and not say, 15ms or 17ms) at 6,000 rpm?
Paul
[QB] IMHO, it is math like this that gets people into thinking their injectors are just fine, you do NOT want to run injectors STATIC at 100% duty cycle and that is what your doing with those values. At 6,000 RPMs it would be 16 mS maximum not 20mS.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree John, they are misleading. My apologies to anyone who misunderstood the math, I should have added what you said to my post. The purely theoretical numbers that I posted do not take into account (among other things) the opening/closing times of the injectors. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Just for comparison, could you explain the figures/reasoning behind why you say 16ms (and not say, 15ms or 17ms) at 6,000 rpm?
Paul
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I'm guessing he is going with the generally accepted rule of 80% duty cycle is where you want to max things out.
80% of 20 is of course 16 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<small>[ April 15, 2003, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: Blackbird ]</small>
80% of 20 is of course 16 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
<small>[ April 15, 2003, 04:43 PM: Message edited by: Blackbird ]</small>