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Old 07-13-2006, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
In my oipinion the screen is a filter to keep debris from damaging the micro fiber size sensors in the maf. The divider that people cut out is clearly an airfoil to direct air around the plastic device that holds the sensors.
If debris is getting past the air filter, you need to fix your air filter.

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I dont think air is wirling around inside there especially when you consider its under a vacum.
how's that work?
Old 07-13-2006, 09:31 AM
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Here is what I've found.

No gain in power for cars under 400rwhp. H/C cars gain 5-10hp ussually when they are over 420rwhp.
Stroker motor's gain 10-25rwhp without the screen.

Blower cars gain nothing removing the screen.

This is all tuning to the max HP before and after.I'm lucky enough to own a dyno
Old 07-14-2006, 12:31 PM
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TA you have got to be kidding me.
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ok ve is tuned.. so now do i tune the MAF or the PE first?
Old 07-14-2006, 08:45 PM
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if you didnt have the PE set the way you wanted it when you tuned your VE..then VE isnt tuned...
set PE to comanded AFR value...then make VE #'s match to get your real wideband AFR to match commanded values....

same for MAF..PE has to be set the way you use the vehicle....then its just AFR erroe to dial it in
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No I Disabled Pe Mode My Setting The Multiplier To 1 And Setting The Map Threshold To 640 Then Usef The Ltft's To Tune My Ve Table For 4000 Rpms And Down ...

So Your Saying Now I Should Re-enable My Pe Mode And Set The Multipliers To What Afr I Want To Command Then Adjust My Ve Table So I Actually Achieve That Afr While Still In Sd Mode

Or In Otherwords Your Telling Me That The Pr Multiplier Just Gives You A Commanded Afr While Changeing The Ve For Above 4000 Rpms Is The Key To Makeing The Commanded Afr = Actual Afr????????

Then After All That Move On To The Maf ..?
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yup..do your entire VE with PE enabled and set he way you want it and then use AFR error % to get here..
then when done leave PER set the same and mve on to MAF...

if your O2's dont jive with it..then adjust your o2 switchpoints until they do
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Ok Do Basicall Yto Set My Pe I Just Take Dream Up What Ever Afr I Want At A Paticular Rpm Then Use What Ever Number I Need To Devide 14.7 By To Get That Afr In The Pe Table

For Example If I Want 12.9 Afr At 6200 Rpms I Take 14.7/x=12.9
Therefore X=1.145 ???

Then After That I Adjust My Ve Table So My Commanded Afr Matches My Actual Afr... One More Question Is What Do I Log To Adjust My Ve Table While In Pe Mode .. I Have Awide Band But No Eio So Should I Just Eye It Up Between The Afr Gauge And The Tach Or Is There A More Refined Way??
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Help!!!!!
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Ok So After I Set My Pe Multipliers How Do I Know Caculate How Much To Change My Ve Table By To See That My Commanded Afr Is What I Get On My Wideband
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ok **** now im really confused....


diaabled my maf and pe mode and used my trims to dial in my ve for 4000rpms and down but how and to what do i tune my ve above 4000 rpms?

on the same thought then after that what does the pe multipulier actually do??

i've read the sticky and now im just lost!!!




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