EFILive RoadRunner Real Time vs. HPT Real Time Tuning
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Originally Posted by Super Sport X2
I don't remember seeing a comparison sheet on our website
I'd assume that you had not included a comparison of your product with any other vendor products on your website. I'm sure if you had that you'd remember about it. I'd only posted the comparison to have it available after so many questions in this regard (can't keep answering the same ones over and over). Given that you have such an enormous user base, it's quite easy for the 'voice' of the HPT product to be somewhat more audible. A bit like Democrats -vs- Republicans in some areas. Just trying to lay facts out as cleanly as possible so folks can make educated decisions rather than following 'Poll Threads'.
Originally Posted by gameover
at one point the Roadrunner was one of the options
I totally understand with respect to options. As you know, it probably would not have been workable to have the Roadrunner operate with both EFILive and HPT from the perspective of protecting the interests of either. I had to make a choice of who to deal with, and it was based on an array of factors such as response time, schedule availability, agreeability to nondisclosure, and general overall 'gut feel'. No harm no foul, and it's good to see that you were able to explore other directions. As you said, your present course fits your business model.
Also, if anyone feels that there are inaccuracies in the referenced document, please feel free to email me offline and I'll be glad to correct it.
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i congradulate hptuners and craig moates/efilive for their accomplishments. they have brought tuning to a whole new level for a lot less than what was originally offered.
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i congradulate hptuners and craig moates/efilive for their accomplishments. they have brought tuning to a whole new level for a lot less than what was originally offered. ![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
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Originally Posted by bmfcamaro
i congradulate hptuners and craig moates/efilive for their accomplishments. they have brought tuning to a whole new level for a lot less than what was originally offered. ![Cheers!!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cheers.gif)
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I use the Roadrunner with EFI Live on my car all the time and the other night I got to use HPT's real time tuning. The Roadrunner works in the tuner where HPT's real time tuning works in the scanner which makes it a PITA to have to copy back to the tuner. I have full access to anything in the PCM with the Roadrunner where you are vary limited on what you can change with HPT. Also with EFILive there is a feature that allows you to copy and fill for the hard to get cells where HPT doesn't seem to offer this. While it is a nice feature for some, it really is apples to oranges between the two.
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I dont think you need the scanner. But your not going to know much about what you have changed if you just change cells randomly without any feedback other than how the car "feels".
Ill be able to confirm tomorrow when I fire my demo unit up.
Ill be able to confirm tomorrow when I fire my demo unit up.
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Originally Posted by Red99C5
Newbie question: If I purchased the Roadrunner with the EFI lic., do I still need to purchase the scanner too? Or is that all I would need?
Craig has told me that the roadrunner will support datalogging and real tiem tuning thru one interface. I just don't think they have gone that far with it yet.
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Originally Posted by ringram
I dont think you need the scanner. But your not going to know much about what you have changed if you just change cells randomly without any feedback other than how the car "feels".
Ill be able to confirm tomorrow when I fire my demo unit up.
Ill be able to confirm tomorrow when I fire my demo unit up.
Keep us informed.
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One question I had and im unsure of, does the roadrunner software have any downloadable like base tunes? Or is there a way to get a good tune someone else uploaded maybe?
Im very interested in getting this software.
Im very interested in getting this software.
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www.holdencrazy.com has some stock and modified tunes but they are no different than regular tune files and can be used with the RR
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
www.holdencrazy.com has some stock and modified tunes but they are no different than regular tune files and can be used with the RR
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Here's the more direct link to the tune files for stock applications:
http://www.holdencrazy.com/EFILive/stockTunes.php
What year/model are you interested in working with?
http://www.holdencrazy.com/EFILive/stockTunes.php
What year/model are you interested in working with?