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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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I just got dont putting in my 3500stall TC in my 4L60e and was wondering if i needed to tune my computer for the new stall... seems like it takes a long time to reach lockup??? when im on the freeway, the idle is pretty high but about 5-10min it locks up?? is this right, the tranny just got rebuilt at the dealership with the shift kit in it.... just wondering if it needs to be tune and how would i go about this?
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Yep, you need a tune if you want to make it work right. Take it to a shop, or buy a tuner & do it yourself. Either way it's going to cost you $300-500. If you plan on more mods, buying your own is the cheaper (& more fun / painful) way.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Is it taking 5-10 minutes of driving to lock up only when it's cold? If so, this is correct behavior and you probably just never noticed it before with the stock TC. A tune can do wonders for the driveability of the car after installing the TC though.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Mine doesn't lock until my temp gauge is just past the first mark, at or above 42 MPH steady part throttle, 140 degrees on a scanner. A tune is a good thing. I'd also double/triple check your fluid level to make sure it's correct after putting some miles on it - a shop installed mine and it shifted funny until I got it right.
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Well i due have HP tuners... Im still new to this LS1 world cause i just did a LS1 swap into my 89 camaro. But the car was warmed up when i drove it so??? so what do i need to do to fix this problem, already have the tuner just need the info lol.. i put a little to much fluid in so it came out the tranny when i was driving it, doesnt leak no more (THANK GOD)... but yeah,

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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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You can modify the lock/release behavior by going to Transmission > Auto TCC > TCC Apply/Release Speed vs. TPS vs. Gear - Normal. For reference, here is my current table with a Vig 2800 and F13 cam. These settings keep the TCC from locking unless the trans is in OD and the rest of the conditions are met as well:

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255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000
255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000
40.00000	40.00000	40.00000	47.00000	54.00000	64.00000	71.00000	71.00000	71.00000	79.00000	94.00000	108.00000	118.00000	125.00000	125.00000	125.00000	125.00000
255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000
255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000	255.00000
35.00000	36.00000	37.00000	42.00000	48.00000	56.00000	61.00000	61.00000	61.00000	66.00000	77.00000	87.00000	91.00000	95.00000	152.00000	152.00000	152.00000
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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thanks alot bro i also have the Vig. 3500 stall.. do you think these tables will work?? im dealing with my 02 sensor right now and its making my car run like crap sometimes, once i fix that then im going try the TC. How did you figure out those tables??
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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well, I just adjusted them by feel. I didn't want the TC to lock up in any gear but OD, so I set the MPH limit for those rows to 255. And the OD table, I just increased them a little at a time until the TC started locking up and behaving like I wanted it.

This doesn't mean you will like it, but you can try it out.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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so i just go to editor and change the numbers around in there?? What do these numbers mean??
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First off, I recommend that you do NOT change numbers that you don't understand. With that being said, the help file describes what these settings are used for:

TCC Apply/Release Speed
These tables determine the speed at which the TCC is applied or released in relation to TPS and Gear.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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i will have to look at the help file then... still new to the tuning world. thanks
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