Originally Posted by dynocar

There is no comparison here to the guy who bought a program, read the instructions, tuned his car, a few friend's cars and then offers to tune or opens a tuning shop and then runs to the forums everytime he has a problem, not what V8er has in mind.

Originally Posted by dynocar

Quote, "Its almost impossible to say who "the" best out there. Tuning is not hard to learn and is not very complicated."



I agree with the first part but the part about tuning is not hard, I have a real issue with. V8er's "best" tuner will have had several years of, not only tuning experiance but also has much knowledge and experiance working and racing many different combinations of high performance engines and drivetrains. A "best" tuner many times has been confronted with someone's new concoction of often mis-matched, improperly installed components and many non-tune related issues all at once. These tuners have the knowledge and equipment to methodically eliminate each issue, does not tune around them, amazingly doesn't destroy an engine in the process, still stays reasonably within the allocated time frame and somehow stays affordable for the tune job.

There is no comparison here to the guy who bought a program, read the instructions, tuned his car, a few friend's cars and then offers to tune or opens a tuning shop and then runs to the forums everytime he has a problem, not what V8er has in mind.

Originally Posted by edcmat-l1

This whole thread has me LOL. But, this guy hit it on the head. ^^^ A good tuner, a really good tuner, is a good diagnostic guy first and foremost.