what timing should I be running(EFI live)
what timing should I be running(EFI live) I have only had the car for about 2 months and it came with all the mods I have on it plus the EFI live tuning software, i finally got around to doing some datalogging lastnight and the timing looked low to me, its tuned speed density and when @ WOT it starts at 18.5* and finishes off @ 21* right around 6k or so, should I put more timing in it? How much?
I havent actualling been into the timing software yet so Im not sure how to even put the timing in it but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
Heres my mods
Futral F14 cam 232"/234" .598 "/.598" 112+4 LSA
Patriot dual Gold Extreme valve springs
Comp cams Chrome Moly Pushrods 7.400 (Stock Length)
Futral motorsports ported LS6 oil pump
LS2 timing Chain
90mm FAST intake manifold
90mm Nick Williams Throttle Body
30lb SVO injectors
Mac Mid Length Headers
Off road ypipe
QTP electric cutout
Mac hi-flow muffler welded in stock cat-back
MTI lid w/K&N
Nitro Dave’s 90mm Plate nitrous system
NX Bottle Heater
Nitro Daves console switch center
860 Spare tire well Bottle mount
Nitrous outlet solenoid brackets
Nitrous outlet digital dual window Switch
EfiLive Commercial included
Alpine headunit
Rockford fosgate 2500watt amp
Kicker Solobaric L7 10” in Subthump stealth box
LC-1 Wideband o2 sensor
Optima red top
I havent actualling been into the timing software yet so Im not sure how to even put the timing in it but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
Heres my mods
Futral F14 cam 232"/234" .598 "/.598" 112+4 LSA
Patriot dual Gold Extreme valve springs
Comp cams Chrome Moly Pushrods 7.400 (Stock Length)
Futral motorsports ported LS6 oil pump
LS2 timing Chain
90mm FAST intake manifold
90mm Nick Williams Throttle Body
30lb SVO injectors
Mac Mid Length Headers
Off road ypipe
QTP electric cutout
Mac hi-flow muffler welded in stock cat-back
MTI lid w/K&N
Nitro Dave’s 90mm Plate nitrous system
NX Bottle Heater
Nitro Daves console switch center
860 Spare tire well Bottle mount
Nitrous outlet solenoid brackets
Nitrous outlet digital dual window Switch
EfiLive Commercial included
Alpine headunit
Rockford fosgate 2500watt amp
Kicker Solobaric L7 10” in Subthump stealth box
LC-1 Wideband o2 sensor
Optima red top
Last edited by tiffo60; Nov 20, 2007 at 09:33 AM.
I have only had the car for about 2 months and it came with all the mods I have on it plus the EFI live tuning software, i finally got around to doing some datalogging lastnight and the timing looked low to me, its tuned speed density and when @ WOT it starts at 18.5* and finishes off @ 21* right around 6k or so, should I put more timing in it? How much?
I havent actualling be into the timing software yet so Im not sure how to even put the timing in it but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
Heres my mods
Futral F14 cam 232"/234" .598 "/.598" 112+4 LSA
Patriot dual Gold Extreme valve springs
Comp cams Chrome Moly Pushrods 7.400 (Stock Length)
Futral motorsports ported LS6 oil pump
LS2 timing Chain
90mm FAST intake manifold
90mm Nick Williams Throttle Body
30lb SVO injectors
Mac Mid Length Headers
Off road ypipe
QTP electric cutout
Mac hi-flow muffler welded in stock cat-back
MTI lid w/K&N
Nitro Dave’s 90mm Plate nitrous system
NX Bottle Heater
Nitro Daves console switch center
860 Spare tire well Bottle mount
Nitrous outlet solenoid brackets
Nitrous outlet digital dual window Switch
EfiLive Commercial included
Alpine headunit
Rockford fosgate 2500watt amp
Kicker Solobaric L7 10” in Subthump stealth box
LC-1 Wideband o2 sensor
Optima red top
I havent actualling be into the timing software yet so Im not sure how to even put the timing in it but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
Heres my mods
Futral F14 cam 232"/234" .598 "/.598" 112+4 LSA
Patriot dual Gold Extreme valve springs
Comp cams Chrome Moly Pushrods 7.400 (Stock Length)
Futral motorsports ported LS6 oil pump
LS2 timing Chain
90mm FAST intake manifold
90mm Nick Williams Throttle Body
30lb SVO injectors
Mac Mid Length Headers
Off road ypipe
QTP electric cutout
Mac hi-flow muffler welded in stock cat-back
MTI lid w/K&N
Nitro Dave’s 90mm Plate nitrous system
NX Bottle Heater
Nitro Daves console switch center
860 Spare tire well Bottle mount
Nitrous outlet solenoid brackets
Nitrous outlet digital dual window Switch
EfiLive Commercial included
Alpine headunit
Rockford fosgate 2500watt amp
Kicker Solobaric L7 10” in Subthump stealth box
LC-1 Wideband o2 sensor
Optima red top
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seems like that timing is the spray tune...but it will be fine on motor as well...
bring it out to redline or kennedale and let's run 'em...
timing took me a while to get a good balance between a motor tune and a spray tune so i didn't have reflash between the two tunes...
bring it out to redline or kennedale and let's run 'em...
timing took me a while to get a good balance between a motor tune and a spray tune so i didn't have reflash between the two tunes...
seems like that timing is the spray tune...but it will be fine on motor as well...
bring it out to redline or kennedale and let's run 'em...
timing took me a while to get a good balance between a motor tune and a spray tune so i didn't have reflash between the two tunes...
bring it out to redline or kennedale and let's run 'em...
timing took me a while to get a good balance between a motor tune and a spray tune so i didn't have reflash between the two tunes...
i ran @ denton friday night, 8.3@93 with a 2.33 60'
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i make denton every so often,and use efilive as well...maybe we will meet sometime...that 93 trap will give me fits but i'll try and manage(look for the black '04 gto)...
there is another strong running ss out there using efilive too...
there is another strong running ss out there using efilive too...
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sounds good,man...just log a lot and read up some on their website and it will all fall in place as time goes along...
it took me a while to get timing where i liked it so i could run a spray tune and motor tune together so i wouldn't flash it every time...
it took me a while to get timing where i liked it so i could run a spray tune and motor tune together so i wouldn't flash it every time...
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Verdad Gallardo heres my first log that i did tonight, its a few minutes into it before my first WOT run and i done a couple more, let me know what yall think.
I tried to look at my tune but it said it couldnt recognize my OS system when i tried to read my pcm calibrations, not sure what to do about this?
I tried to look at my tune but it said it couldnt recognize my OS system when i tried to read my pcm calibrations, not sure what to do about this?
Off the bottle at WOT, optimal timing for that cam is 27* starting around 2400~2800rpm up to redline with an AFR of ~12.7:1 across the board. On the bottle, the rule of thumb is to pull 2* of timing for every 50hp of N2O and run an AFR of 11.8~12.0:1.
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http://www.efilive.com/download.aspx#download1
download this(V7.4.2) updated version and see if that helps...
http://www.efilive.com/download.aspx#download1
http://www.efilive.com/download.aspx#download1
download this(V7.4.2) updated version and see if that helps...
http://www.efilive.com/download.aspx#download1
http://www.efilive.com/download.aspx#download1
worked like a charm, there is so much stuff in this program it is mind blowing
im especially liking the N20 monitoring tables, and will more than likely be inquiring on how to wire it up and what to do to make these effective
GD. I guess you didn't get much traction? 
I played with that software a lot. Although that is the same tune that was loaded from the other owner, I uploaded a few of my own before. I actually talked to SSpdDmon on the EFI Live forums. He seems to know his ****. Good luck with tuning it.
I do see a race between us in the future though...
I played with that software a lot. Although that is the same tune that was loaded from the other owner, I uploaded a few of my own before. I actually talked to SSpdDmon on the EFI Live forums. He seems to know his ****. Good luck with tuning it.
I do see a race between us in the future though...
GD. I guess you didn't get much traction?
I played with that software a lot. Although that is the same tune that was loaded from the other owner, I uploaded a few of my own before. I actually talked to SSpdDmon on the EFI Live forums. He seems to know his ****. Good luck with tuning it.
I do see a race between us in the future though...
I played with that software a lot. Although that is the same tune that was loaded from the other owner, I uploaded a few of my own before. I actually talked to SSpdDmon on the EFI Live forums. He seems to know his ****. Good luck with tuning it.
I do see a race between us in the future though...
i know what that thing is like from a dig
theres some efi live classes coming to fort worth in feb, i going to take the EFIlive 101 and Efilive advanced to get me started on tuning this thing myself
We'll see. Later this year im going to sell the KB and get the new Whipple. I'll put that trans to the test. Whenever you get it all tuned and runnin some nitrous through it, let me know. I want a ride.
, everone on talon is running the same tranny