pcm tuning software is overpriced
Our software also allows both single vcm to year/model & year/model to tunershop upgrade paths and allots you enough credits to tune up to 4 vehicles with your initial purchase. Once utilized our customers really love how the Upgrade Credits system works since your not throwing good money at bad nor are you forced to purchase licenses you don't need or want ie people tuning camaros/firebirds never need to purchase corvette or holden licenses if they don't want to.
For someone to purchase our software package and license all LS1 cars would only cost $1600 which includes the hardware costs as well.
-Bill
For someone to purchase our software package and license all LS1 cars would only cost $1600 which includes the hardware costs as well.
-Bill
lol good one. i understand that it is relatively cheap. its the principle of the matter im talking about. i for one dont change cars every year...(every 2 maybe lo) but its all good. im gonna get efilive i think though i saw it in action the other day and its pretty sweet. ,
HPTuners comes with enough credits to license his car AND get a custom OS for REAL TIME TUNING with his STOCK PCM. All for nothing extra than the price he's seen. I use their MAF-Enhanced OS with real time tuning for every f-body with more than boltons that I tune, and it saves a lot of time. It's only 1 credit.
Your comment is noted, however:
They do not write new software. They take what they have and update/change/modify it. They do not re-invent the wheel. An ECM (or in GM-speak, a PCM) is merely a computer. It has instructions, inputs, and outputs. Sensors talk, sensors listen. Even the transmission can be thought of as a sensor, if you get far enough into it. Pretty basic, once you dig deep enough.
The hardware stays pretty much the same. My OBDII connector on my AutoTap, for example, will hook up to a GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc. The software is all that changes.
AFA a fair price, well, I maintain that they charge what the market will bear.
They do not write new software. They take what they have and update/change/modify it. They do not re-invent the wheel. An ECM (or in GM-speak, a PCM) is merely a computer. It has instructions, inputs, and outputs. Sensors talk, sensors listen. Even the transmission can be thought of as a sensor, if you get far enough into it. Pretty basic, once you dig deep enough.
The hardware stays pretty much the same. My OBDII connector on my AutoTap, for example, will hook up to a GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc. The software is all that changes.
AFA a fair price, well, I maintain that they charge what the market will bear.
Hey. I am not going to lie to you. I know for a fact that a good chunk of the code in GM's PCMs is autocoded. Given that the memory allocation, or where each variable is stored in the flashable memory, is different from OS to OS and people have to figure that out. Sometimes by changing each variable and just seeing what effect it has on the car.
Let's face it. GM doesn't go around and let people have their header files...unless you want to end up dead in a ditch.
When I look back now.... and look at how much its cost me to tune my own car...
HP Tuners: $500
Wideband: $450 installed
Time: LOTS OF TIME learning to tune...
It still comes out worth it.....simply because you get a MUCH bigger satisfaction out of tuning the car yourself.... taking it for a spin and feeling what a differnce YOU made.
Then when you start talking to people at the track and you tell them that you've tuned your car yourself.... the look of bewilderment on their face is pretty satisfying.
And you get the added bonus that noone can bullshit you when it comes to tuning cars.
HP Tuners: $500
Wideband: $450 installed
Time: LOTS OF TIME learning to tune...
It still comes out worth it.....simply because you get a MUCH bigger satisfaction out of tuning the car yourself.... taking it for a spin and feeling what a differnce YOU made.
Then when you start talking to people at the track and you tell them that you've tuned your car yourself.... the look of bewilderment on their face is pretty satisfying.
And you get the added bonus that noone can bullshit you when it comes to tuning cars.
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