PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

Best user frendly/eaisest tuning software?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 08:10 AM
  #41  
Frost's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (45)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,913
Likes: 2
From: Richmond VA
Default

Originally Posted by macca_779
Hmm lets see a customer comes to me with an E38 and wants an SD tune. With HPT it will cost me 4 credits to tune the car and another 2 to use a SD OS, 6 credits all up so whats that like $300 just to start with, o but if its a VZ I can't even use a custom os as one doesn't exist. Screw that for a joke its $100 for any car with any computer with EFI LIVE and I can use any OS I want for free. Not that I even need one doing a SD tune in EFI LIVE. Some of us have actually moved on from LS1's and are living in the present with out customer base.

Way to make a straw man! That's not the argument. The poster didn't ask about having a shop or other person tune his car. Like I said, he can get the ALL of the hardware AND software, even for the type of tune you posted for one of his cars and STILL license his vette, all for $499.
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 08:22 AM
  #42  
b.lee's Avatar
Launching!
15 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
From: Southeast, Michigan
Default

EFI Live.
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 05:29 PM
  #43  
macca_779's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 620
Likes: 0
From: Katherine N.T Australia
Default

Originally Posted by foff667
The main reason is we don't separate the models the same way we do in the US. ie in US we have GTO/vette etc. as seperate models. In Australia we have very simple licensing. To tune all Australian Gen 4 V8's would run $5400 through us including our hardware as compared to having to purchase 4 separate streams with efilive totaling over $7000 with their discounts applied including the hardware.

Most of our tunershops have opted for the tunershop licensing so the single vehicle licenses don't even come into play for those customers and the ones that do usually take advantage of our upgrade credits that we give towards upgrading to year/model & tunershop licensing.

The bottom line being both companies have employed their own licensing and each has their advantages but both work very well for what they were meant to do no matter how you'd like to knock ours every chance you get.

Actually to tune all Aus GenIV cars would only require 2 streams as we only have E40's and E38's. So with full discounts in EFI LIVE it will only cost us $2500. Don't know where you got $7000 from. We'll assume that 1 already has the hardware but even with the original hardware purchase and the two free included licences those two licences are discounted back $160 when you purchase a stream, effectively knocking that off the original purchase price.

Last edited by macca_779; Apr 18, 2008 at 05:40 PM.
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 05:31 PM
  #44  
TAQuickness's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,250
Likes: 1
From: Houston
Default

Originally Posted by Frost
Way to make a straw man! That's not the argument. The poster didn't ask about having a shop or other person tune his car. Like I said, he can get the ALL of the hardware AND software, even for the type of tune you posted for one of his cars and STILL license his vette, all for $499.
Common now... You mean for $499 I can get scan & tune software, black box logging, and inputs for my WB's and EGT's?!?! Sounds too good to be true. What's the catch?
Old Apr 18, 2008 | 05:53 PM
  #45  
horist's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,036
Likes: 1
From: Lake Zurich, IL
Default

well as usual this has turned into an E-Dick contest... fact is people that have HPT are going to think it's easier, same for the EFI Live users... most those in here who have both already have bias one way or another ...


/Thread




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:37 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE