PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

MAP Sensor problem with HP Tuners

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-06-2008, 11:42 AM
  #1  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Angry MAP Sensor problem with HP Tuners

My MAP sensor is not reading in HP Tuners it just sits at a constant value and doesn't move at all. I tested the sensor with a voltmeter and it read and worked as normal. from terminals A-C it read 5.02v and from B-C terminals it read 4.84v with ignition on and then 2.2-2.3v with car idling, just as it should! But it does not read in HP Tuners and im wondering if my engine PCM is reading it or not. anyone have any similar problems or have any advice? Thanks...

EDIT: my timing advance is doing the same thing. just sits at one constant value and doesnt change at all.
Old 05-06-2008, 02:01 PM
  #2  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i just emailed HP Tuners support...

also, with the key on.. the MAP reads 101... then when you start the car it goes to a random number like 65 or 90.. and just stays there until you turn the car off again.. and it goes back to 101....
Old 05-06-2008, 03:01 PM
  #3  
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
foff667's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clermont, FL
Posts: 7,986
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Sounds like either a pcm or wiring issue to me.
Old 05-06-2008, 03:13 PM
  #4  
Moderator
iTrader: (11)
 
jimmyblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 12,604
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

Are you by any chance using one of the custom
multi-bar OSes? I don't know much about V6es but
see the hairdryer in your .sig picture. On the V8
multi-bar OSes there is a special MAP PID added
that you should look at instead of the regular. Can
you display MAP voltage in the scan tool?
Old 05-06-2008, 03:25 PM
  #5  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jimmyblue
Are you by any chance using one of the custom
multi-bar OSes? I don't know much about V6es but
see the hairdryer in your .sig picture. On the V8
multi-bar OSes there is a special MAP PID added
that you should look at instead of the regular. Can
you display MAP voltage in the scan tool?
yes i can but i havent tried. what good will seeing the MAP voltage do?
Old 05-06-2008, 06:14 PM
  #6  
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
gametech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Stockbridge GA
Posts: 4,203
Likes: 0
Received 526 Likes on 370 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by dmw319
yes i can but i havent tried. what good will seeing the MAP voltage do?
If you can read the voltage, then the problem is narrowed down to a setting in the scanner.
Old 05-06-2008, 08:52 PM
  #7  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

hmm alright thanks guys i will check that tomorrow.
Old 05-08-2008, 03:05 PM
  #8  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by gametech
If you can read the voltage, then the problem is narrowed down to a setting in the scanner.
its not reading the voltage either.
Old 05-08-2008, 03:42 PM
  #9  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

anyone?
Old 05-08-2008, 05:34 PM
  #10  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

also i was getting the p0121 code but changed my max and min to 100 and 0 so now that went away. i read a little bit on how having a cam can sometimes effect that tps 0121 code.. i could try another TPS? would a bad TPS cause the MAP to be reading a consistent kpa??

also getting P1374

Last edited by dmw319; 05-08-2008 at 05:43 PM.
Old 05-09-2008, 08:37 PM
  #11  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

nobody? i cant tune my car until i get this figured out!
Old 05-17-2008, 11:15 AM
  #12  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

tried a new PCM today and it still has the same problem...
Old 05-17-2008, 04:22 PM
  #13  
Moderator
iTrader: (11)
 
jimmyblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 12,604
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

If the scanner can't see the real MAP voltage I'd
be looking for a wiring fault, chase the +5V and
GND all the way to the sensor, and the MAP
output all the way back to the PCM connector.
Old 05-17-2008, 06:55 PM
  #14  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

its weird. it reads it as the car is being turned on and off but only momentarily then it sits at a constant value..

my car wont even start now. just cranks and cranks but wont turn over.

EDIT: tried a new ICM today also and still nothing.

Last edited by dmw319; 05-17-2008 at 09:38 PM.
Old 05-18-2008, 03:40 PM
  #15  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

could it be the crank position sensor?
Old 05-18-2008, 08:07 PM
  #16  
Banned
iTrader: (10)
 
edcmat-l1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 4,782
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

What map sensor are you using?
Old 05-19-2008, 03:57 PM
  #17  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

stock
Old 05-20-2008, 12:34 AM
  #18  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dmw319's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

tried a new crank position sensor today... still nothing. car isnt getting spark.
Old 10-02-2008, 10:56 PM
  #19  
On The Tree
iTrader: (10)
 
adam`'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: orlando, fl
Posts: 186
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

did you ever find out the problem? i have this EXACT problem to the T.
Old 10-19-2008, 12:55 PM
  #20  
Teching In
 
MikeyB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i just done a cam swap my self and i cant get my map sensor to read in HP either



Quick Reply: MAP Sensor problem with HP Tuners



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 AM.