PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo

EXTREMELY lean on the dyno>>

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:42 PM
  #1  
330racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Akron, OH
Default EXTREMELY lean on the dyno>>

My setup is basically stock....

Just a lid, a 75 dry shot, and a tune from Bryan Herter at PCMfor Less...

Ran it for the first time and car hit 16.8 AFR before we shut it down. Gave a quick run NA to see how it would do and still went lean like that.

Checked fuel pressure at idle was about 60psi and ran it on the dyno and stayed right there also.

No visible vaccuum leaks and MAF looks clean. I am going to search for more vaccuum leaks and possibly swap the MAF to see if there is any improvement (Only 33.8 lbs/min at the 353hp mark)

Any other ideas?


Thanks for any help
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:54 AM
  #2  
Dennis@SpectacleSolutions's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 811
Likes: 0
Default

Tell the shop to check their wideband. They do go bad and when they do, it will show every car to be lean.

I had this problem at my shop and it drove me crazy for a couple of days untill we decided to replace the wideband.

problem solved.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 07:01 AM
  #3  
330racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Akron, OH
Default

Jeff,

That is what I thought as well because I showed no knock and made good power....which neither seem likely at 17.0:1, but when I logged the car it showed about 100 grams/min low on the MAF....Not sure about that
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 08:00 AM
  #4  
Dennis@SpectacleSolutions's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 811
Likes: 0
Default

was it showing lean ONLY at WOT? if so, I really think it could be the wideband. Im not even sure if a car will run at 17.0
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 02:19 PM
  #5  
330racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Akron, OH
Default

Once again, this is what I thought.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 04:22 PM
  #6  
kbracing96's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 8,929
Likes: 2
From: Sutherlin OR
Default

What kind of car and exhaust? Had a 08 Vette with the stock bypass tips on it. We put the Dynos WB O2 in the muffled side of the tip and when the bypass tips opened, it sucked air back in though the muffled side and showed max lean on his wide band. I had mine installed in the header, so we just tunned off of it.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 04:29 PM
  #7  
2xLS1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,649
Likes: 9
From: Warr Acres, OK
Default

Try cleaning the MAF or your tune is just bad.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 06:45 PM
  #8  
Alvin's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 718
Likes: 1
Default

Try cleaning your MAF or also I've seen 2 or 3 MAFs that flat out didn't read at wide open throttle. One belonged to a friends girlfriend. That car was high 16's but the fuel trims around town looked nice. At wide open the MAF barely saw 200gm/sec so after a cleaning didn't fix it we put a new one on and it followed the same AFR all stock cars do.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:27 PM
  #9  
330racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Akron, OH
Default

Thanks....I cleaned it and checked for vaccuum leaks(none) tonite.

The wires were dirty on the qtip so gonna try the dyno one more time and if that doesnt work will swap the MAF.
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2008 | 09:29 PM
  #10  
Old Geezer's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 5,639
Likes: 71
From: GA, USA
Default

Plug readings?
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2008 | 07:10 AM
  #11  
330racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Akron, OH
Default

No plug readings yet.
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2008 | 10:40 AM
  #12  
330racing's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Akron, OH
Default

turned out to be the shops wideband after all.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:06 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE