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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 04:23 AM
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i just bought some LT's, still in the process of puttin em on, will the headers make me run leaner?? my tuner if im not mistaken made my car a little leaner then factory and changed fan settings (now hav 160 t stat) also advanced timing and torque management. now will i run too lean after the header install? (also rear o2's deleted already no cats) i dont want to blow the motor at WOT. thank you
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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Your best answer would be to buy an wideband and install then their would be no question in my opition best mod you can make to a car look at the PLX wideband their about $250 very small. Then you will have no question to if its lean.
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Usually you're fine. My car actually needed very little tuning after the headers went on. Others though have ran into problems. Get your hands on a wideband (or buy one, they're a great investment) and take a look at what's going on. That's the only way to really find out since every car reacts to mods differently.
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like the other's have said you need to have a WB to make a final conclusion. i know on one of my friends car we were able to add a good about of fuel it was running pretty lean up top. and on another friends car we didnt have to do anything to it.....strange i know.

btw just wanted to say your pretty brave running !cats in cali lol
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like the other's have said you need to have a WB to make a final conclusion. i know on one of my friends car we were able to add a good about of fuel it was running pretty lean up top. and on another friends car we didnt have to do anything to it.....strange i know.

btw just wanted to say your pretty brave running !cats in cali lol
lol, man and i thought i was brave, my car is still pretty quiet compared to other cars that come out the shops. but i may install cats soon if the noise level is too high, now in cali they have smog check stations on the roads and also can randomly pull u over with a mirrior to check under the car for cats. man its real strict here!

thanks for all the info then guys, i may just take it back to my tuner see if he hooks it up to the computer
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sucks about **** cali, what headers you get?
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^^^ yea screw the cali emissions, i got some ceramic pacesetters with their y pipe and poly motor mounts 8 stage locking bolts, steel braided brake lines. the pacesetter y pipe has a big chunck of metal sticking in the merge, i had to grind that off, it took a few days. the car is now all apart and im just waiting for the motor mounts to come in! im still undecided on if i should keep my EGR or remove it and same with the AIR too.
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I have the pacesetters too with no cats and my car runs really rich actually. About 12:1 at wot. But then again like everyone said " every car reacts differently "
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Generally it makes it run more rich at low rpm and all around, but it might go lean up top.
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do they sell a wideband i can use just for testing??
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