tuff

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Man thats not me trying to make that cable. I'll stick with spending the hundred bucks.But if you had one handy i would try it.

Cal

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hohl, thanks for the info. The only reason I want to build my own cable, is because I need one now. All I really need to know is what the pin out of the DIN connector is; I can build a cable and interface after I have that information. I did need to know the format of the input also; helps to know it is a 0 to 5 volt A/D input. I assumed it would be a logic level TTL input for a tach function expecting a pulse train; I see now that assumption was incorrect. So can you give the pin out of the connector? I could probably reverse engineer it, but I'm low on time at the moment.

hohl

Your assumptions are correct. Klaus' example was a generic one for instances of an analog signal being available. The way I see it, for our cars (splicing the tach on the PCM), it is going to take a F/V converter to get a signal the LM-1 can use.

Kobwo

When I talked to them on the phone, they led me to believe that the signal can be tapped right from the rpm signal cable where I have tapped for my shift light. What is a F/V converter?

hohl

F/V would be a frequency voltage converter. The tach signal wire will show a constant 4.53 volts since it works off of frequency. Since the LM-1 records voltage it will always sample a value of 4.53 volts and your RPM will appear to be constant.

According to autometer's Web site there is a wire in the guage cluster that has the frequency converted into a voltage they can use to drive their tachs. They also say the color and location vary by year but it sounds like you already found it since you installed your shift light. My guess would be that you will be able to use that same signal.

Cal

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Yeah that's what I was thinking also . . . the signal to the gage cluster is a digital bus, but there is a D/A in the cluster controller that converts it to a voltage signal to drive the stock tach.

Cal

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BTW, just got my Innovate unit hooked up tonight, and it works great! The included software to display the data is quite nice also. I welded the bung in about the middle of the Y-pipe after the cats. It reads pretty much 14.7 all the time at part throttle, so I think the "after cats" location is accurate.

Flyin'Brian

So what happened to them?
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/
Website is gone

hohl

From a Yahoo! Groups LM-1 Mailing List:
They were up for a while on Sunday but it seems they are still having some problems. I spoke with Cort, my contact there, on Friday and he said the same thing. I think they were a little unprepared for the rush their wideband has experienced.

Cal

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The web site is up now.

Mike00FRC

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Anyone receive it yet(from the GP)?

Cal

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I recieved mine last Friday, but I had ordered it just before the GP.

horist

Mine was supposed to ship Monday... sux that when it shows up i'll be outta town oh well, something to look forward too when I get home

CAT3

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Hey Tony, are you going to set up a GP for the RPM cable everyones talking about since it aint available yet? That would really be lookign out for us man!

tuff

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Anyone have there's how are you going to tune without the rpm cable. Just want some opions on this. streets vs track are two diffrent conditions so the load wil be diffrent and change the afr or not

Cal

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I just logged a lot of driving time on mine, and the AFM was very constant over all rpm ranges. I went up to about 6600 rpm on the high end, and didn't go to WOT below about 2500 rpm. In other words, I don't think you need the rpm cable.

hohl

Today is the last day to get your name on the list. I will be forwarding the final list of names tonight after midnight PDT.

hohl

Closed. No more names will be added to the list as of last night midnight PST. We have nearly 30 buyers and got the deepest discount we could.

hohl

The manufacturer is still waiting on some people to phone in their payment details. Please call the number previously provided by email to give Innovate your information. Witout payment we may not be guaranteed the full discount. Prompt payyment will allow Innovate ship our units sooner and let us dial in our tuning faster.

Visceral

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For some reason I didnt get the email. I can certainly call Innovative's main #.... and provide payment details. But I did get the first email after I sent you my name.
Perhaps others have not gotten this second email.

Chris
chris@iocaine.com