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Old 05-14-2012, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by StuntmanMike
Out of the two I like the blue one better.... and most importantly, it's a 6 speed. And while the black on has lower miles, it's an auto, so I wouldn't want that.
You have an auto. Why would you recommend to him against it?
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Originally Posted by RevGTO
You have an auto. Why would you recommend to him against it?
For exactly that reason. Pretty much every time I get in the car I grab that auto shifter and feel a tinge of regret.
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There are a lot of factors to take into consideration. What do the interiors look like? Paint condition? Etc. That could make or break a deal.
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Both are actually pretty equal on interiors. Same color interiors and interior condition.
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When faced with a choice between a modded, or a stock vehicle, my choice is always the stock one.

The blue car is a true WS6, and has the stock wheels. It will hold its value better than a regular TA over time. It also has a 6 speed, which is more sought after than the auto. It also looks cleaner and better looked after than the black one.

The black car is a regular TA, with an auto transmission. As such, its not a popular car choice for consumers. It has been repainted (it is actually grey, you say?), and doesn't have its original wheels. The wheels that it has, IMO, are truly ugly, and detract from the overall look of the car. Its also not a true WS6, just a poser car with an aftermarket hood. Pass.

I wouldn't be particularly concerned about the mileage issue. I would rather a car that has been driven and maintained, than one with low miles, that has sat in a garage most of its life.

I wouldn't even consider the black one. Good luck with your choice!
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I find it hard to believe you're getting someone to trade a Trans am for a Ford Truck
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Don let mileage throw you off. I got my car with 155kamd it drives like new. The blue one is mostly stock and therefor has probably been driven nicer.
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Get the original WS6 with stock wheels...
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well I picked my trans am today. I went with the automatic, for a variety of reasons.


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Care explaining?
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Wow! You certainly chose to ignore about 99.9% of the advice you asked for. Care to explain why you went with the "black" car? Unless you plan to turn it into a weekend racer/thrash car, I can't think why an original, 6-speed WS6 wouldn't be the obvious choice.
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My wife can't drive tick and while I'm deployed it would be nice for the car to be driven occasionally. I do want to race it occasionally and automatics are more consistent. Plus this came with a full stereo setup
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Originally Posted by Ellsworth
I find it hard to believe you're getting someone to trade a Trans am for a Ford Truck
I traded my old 94 k1500 for my car!!
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You'd be a fool not to get the blue ws6. 150k miles is nothing for a ls1. I cammed mine at 117k and still runs like a champ. The hood pins are a total turn off, the wheels on the black one are lame too. That blue one looks amazing. Not a color you see often on the ws6.
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Originally Posted by chemicalstylez
You'd be a fool not to get the blue ws6. 150k miles is nothing for a ls1. I cammed mine at 117k and still runs like a champ. The hood pins are a total turn off, the wheels on the black one are lame too. That blue one looks amazing. Not a color you see often on the ws6.
I already got the black one man. And I don't regret it in the least bit.
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Get a hi-stall converter and Transgo shift kit installed along with some tuning and you'll be all the more glad you went with the auto
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Ok before I buy a shift kit, I need to know, from the factory do these cars chirp shifting into second gear at full throttle, or is that indicative of having a shift kit already?
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Originally Posted by Zombiesoldier
Ok before I buy a shift kit, I need to know, from the factory do these cars chirp shifting into second gear at full throttle, or is that indicative of having a shift kit already?
Mine doesn't do that. But it might not be because of a shift kit. If it was tuned for the other mods they can tune the tranny as well...increase the line pressure to firm up the shifts, as well as decreasing or removing torque management (cuts engine power as car is shifting to reduce stress on trans).

So if those things were done, I'm sure it could chirp second w/out a shift kit.

I had a 88 GTA 350 without a shift kit that would chirp second. I'm guessing that was before torque management came about.
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Honestly I would take the 02.
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Shoulda gone with the blue one!!


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