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If you could've changed the design of the 4th gen, what would you have done different

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Old 02-23-2014, 07:52 AM
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I think I would have liked to see the fender "vents" deleted from the 98-02 LS1 cars like on the LT1's. I also would have liked 5.7 or LS1 fender badges instead of the vents.
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I think I'm spoiled but the quality of the interior of my volvo so I +1 on better interior plastics.. And better sealed tails.
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Stronger rear end. It was the only thing that made me second guess to use the car to it's full potential would be a good idea. Everything else is fine.
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How about better electrical / no cold solder joints that break constantly?
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  • Vinyl or leather wrapped interior panels
  • No passenger side floor hump
  • CV Driveshaft (rzeppa on both ends) to cut down on vibration
  • Aluminum front and rear suspension
  • Aluminum K-member
  • Multilink or double A-arm rear suspension
  • Bilstein shocks as base, Koni's available
  • .75"-1" lower ride height
  • True duals, stainless steel of course
  • Firehawk hood standard on all trans am's
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^^ yep I agree with everyone on here. Also the rattles...I'm framed and supported heavily and I still hear body and t-top rattles.
And I just love how the hatch pours water into the speakers whenever I wash car and open hatch to clean underneath! lol. It only happened once, duh. Now I crack it and put a towel in both sides before fully opening hatch.
all that said, I still love F-bodies, everytime I see one that is dirty as shiit and dinged to hell I want to tell owner to get it in shape! NOW! lol
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NOTHING, you can't improve PERFECTION.
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Originally Posted by RockinWs6
NOTHING, you can't improve PERFECTION.
Not sure if serious...or just trolling
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Originally Posted by RJDio
And I just love how the hatch pours water into the speakers whenever I wash car and open hatch to clean underneath! lol. It only happened once, duh. Now I crack it and put a towel in both sides before fully opening hatch.
Be glad you don't have a Formula. The spoiler design creates a little pond on the rear deck lid, and you have to open it reaaaaallll sllllooooow or it goes everywhere.
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Originally Posted by metalmilitia606
Not sure if serious...or just trolling
The 98-02 firebird LS1 cars are Pontiac PERFECTION

(cleaned up-let's keep it that way, eh?)

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Get rid of that damn hump!!!
true duals
Engine not under the cowl
Stronger rear ( they have at least brought back the 8.5)
HUD
6 cd radio in dash
XM
Re-wire the window motors or lighter glass/better motors
315 tire option wit Konis
2002-offered the LS6
brass headlight gears
Overhead console (Like the GTA's)
DIC

They should have designed the front suspension like the C5 and ditched the heavy shock/wheel-well setup.
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Optional rear window wiper. That thing is useless in heavy rain.

Metal foglight housings so they don't melt.

Weep holes for the tail lights and parking lights ( easily solved but would have been nice to have that from the factory )
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Originally Posted by Kevin Lee 487
Optional rear window wiper.
You have that? The pics of your car don't show it.
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No I don't have that. None of the 4th gens did AFAIK.

I was saying that I would have liked for there to be one and that the rear window is useless in heavy rain because of the lack of a rear wiper.
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hahaha OK, it sounded like your rear window wiper was useless in the rain.
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The big thing i wouldve done is put a better transmission in the autos and a 12 bolt rear end. Then better plastics inside especially the door panels.
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Originally Posted by Paul Bell
hahaha OK, it sounded like your rear window wiper was useless in the rain.
Yeah I just re-read my post and I can see where it was worded poorly.
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A/C controls like I had in my Honda so that the Compressor wouldn't kick on unless I wanted it to.

Seriously tho, that car had the best thought out A/C controls (see attached pic), when running the A/C or the heat you could switch from the "fresh air intake" (like are cars a stuck getting all the air from) to cabin recirculate (this is somewhat equivalent to MAX AC on our controls) so you where either heating or cooling ALREADY heated/cooled air instead of having to heat up 0 degree outside air in the middle of winter, the A/C compressor was on a button so you could use ANY Vent selection with out being FORCED to have the compressor engage on it's own.

I know this sounds odd but if you have a car with the controls how Honda had it setup and use it in all types of weather you would quickly see how much better the controls are for dealing with different weather conditions.
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How can you need more seat adjustment, unless your in racing seats. I'm 6'3" and i love the way these cars sit, minus the cheap factory seats out of the Camaro. Now mustangs are hella uncomfortable, but i'm satisfied with our f-bodys
I'm 6'3" and I hate sitting in my 01 Formula M6 for long drives. My legs start to cramp up and when I get out I need to stretch and get the juices back into my legs.
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I'd complain for the interior, but it was pretty par for the course when the 4th gen came out. I agree with the WS6 being integrated in the T/A, I mean why not? I don't care for the stock rims much. I'd also would have liked to have seen a supercharged SLP made Cobra fighter at the end.



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