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Hi, Since I was a kid I've always wanted a T/A. Recently I've decided to purchase one. I don't have very much cash but i have a decent playing job where i make around $750 a month. I found one recently that isnt too expensive. Could someone give me buying tips and tell me even if i can afford this car. I have hardly any other bills to pay.here is the car: https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/4659014047.html
Is the millage too high, will it be reliable. Is it a real WS6? Is it a good DD?
I am new to the T/A but pretty familiar with cars in general.
In the four pictures, it looks like a nice car but many more pictures are needed. Along with a more in-depth description. If you can get the VIN, you could find out the major installed options.
KBB shows in "very good condition" it's worth $4,464.00. In "good condition" it's worth $4,150.00.
Are you able to visit this car for a good look?
I would tell the seller that you have a serious interest, what the KBB value is and ask for the missing information and if you can see the car. If this all pans out, go with somebody that can do an in-depth inspection/road test.
The asking price is too much for a 150K mile Trans Am with "issues." BTW - the WS6 emblem on the back has fallen apart. A new one of those will set you back $150.
That being said, I wouldn't run away just yet - that's what negotiation is for. It looks like the seller has dumped a lot of cash in to exhaust tips, new (bad) wheels, vinyl stickers, and dress-up parts. If they are going to sell the car, they will need to come to grips with the fact that all that stuff is worthless with regard to the real value of the car. (You can quote me on that. ) BTW - The power antenna mast also has issues - but that should be a $50 fix if it still goes up and down.
As long as the big common issues (power windows, door panel cracking, headlight motors, etc.) aren't present, owning this car shouldn't cost you more than any other 150K mile, 15 year old car. If you do a lot of City driving, the extra gas can be a killer, but this car gets pretty descent mileage on the highway.
I'd also suggest thinking about how long it will be until you can afford more and how much you drive. An engine rebuild is in this car's future. Maybe 3-7 years, depending on how much you drive it. My '99 is at 150K miles with no signs of trouble, yet.
The pics look pretty good. I wanted a trans am since i was 13 and finally bought one last year at 27. I was looking for a while before I purchased mine. You will have to get out there and drive a few, the high and low priced cars. Almost every history i pulled up shows at least one accident and funky odometer readings. Things also get pricey quick when you start repairing stuff so even tho the initial purchase is low, tools, fluids, parts add up quick as hell. If i were you, i would just save money until your near the 8-10k range and keep your eyes open for a good deal. Keep a cool head, a lot of people dont know how to treat these cars and the people who have worked on them the last 16+ yrs are no better. This car has o2 troubles which could be minor or major. The way he says, im not spending anymore money on it, would make me look else where. Sorry if im being negative but you dont want your dream car to be nightmare.
Alright, thanks everyone for the support. It seems to me that all of these cars go for much more than their kbb price though. Ive never seen one close to their kbb even assuming this car has now become more of a collectible.
The owner is a little on the sketchy side and I cannot see the car in person ATM since it is 400 miles away. Hopefully I will get more information on this car
Alright, thanks everyone for the support. It seems to me that all of these cars go for much more than their kbb price though. Ive never seen one close to their kbb even assuming this car has now become more of a collectible.
The owner is a little on the sketchy side and I cannot see the car in person ATM since it is 400 miles away. Hopefully I will get more information on this car
I got into an argument on this forum about this very subject. KBB values are almost always low and just a baseline to boot. To me, $5800 seems like a good price for an M6 WS6, especially one that looks like that.
I got into an argument on this forum about this very subject. KBB values are almost always low and just a baseline to boot.
I'm sure they are accurate, but it would be hard for us to calculate ourselves since we only see public transactions of people "paying retail." Dealers buy much lower and many cars are auctioned off, so those transactions impact the "real value."
Never pay sticker price. It's all about the negotiation! (And certainly - use KBB and the other physical flaws on the car as levers to lower the price.)
Love how the guy covers up his plates with his finger, only to put where the car is located on the maps. Never understood why people cover their plates. Not like thousands of people on the street won't see it every day.
I'm sure they are accurate, but it would be hard for us to calculate ourselves since we only see public transactions of people "paying retail." Dealers buy much lower and many cars are auctioned off, so those transactions impact the "real value."
Never pay sticker price. It's all about the negotiation! (And certainly - use KBB and the other physical flaws on the car as levers to lower the price.)
I'd be very hesitant to buy a car with that high of mileage from an owner you feel is "sketchy"...
But the car does look to be in great shape (from the limited pictures and descriptions anyways).
I'm sure they are accurate, but it would be hard for us to calculate ourselves since we only see public transactions of people "paying retail." Dealers buy much lower and many cars are auctioned off, so those transactions impact the "real value."
Never pay sticker price. It's all about the negotiation! (And certainly - use KBB and the other physical flaws on the car as levers to lower the price.)
To Kelly,they are just another used car. Their $ is based on year and miles
and does not put any value in what we "love" about them!
Namely styling and performance that sets them apart from the boring
cars!
I'm sure they are accurate, but it would be hard for us to calculate ourselves since we only see public transactions of people "paying retail." Dealers buy much lower and many cars are auctioned off, so those transactions impact the "real value."
Never pay sticker price. It's all about the negotiation! (And certainly - use KBB and the other physical flaws on the car as levers to lower the price.)
kbb doesnt take into consideration the supply and demand of certain automobile.
for your average regular car yes they are pretty accurate but for these cars pricing will depend a lot more on supply and demand.
IN MY AREA(and bay area is a good size) the going rate for ws6 with m6 is around 7+ k kbb is only around 5k or less.
good luck getting a ttop m6 at kbb price. i have not seen one list below 6k
kbb doesnt take into consideration the supply and demand of certain automobile.
for your average regular car yes they are pretty accurate but for these cars pricing will depend a lot more on supply and demand.
IN MY AREA(and bay area is a good size) the going rate for ws6 with m6 is around 7+ k kbb is only around 5k or less.
good luck getting a ttop m6 at kbb price. i have not seen one list below 6k
The price primarily depends on location. Here in Tucson, everyone thinks these cars are made of gold. But two hours north In Phoenix, where I've bought the last three f-bodies I've owned, they are way more reasonable. If you wait long enough, I think you might find a bit of a better deal. But I understand that waiting sucks, and it sounds like you've waited a long time already...
The price primarily depends on location. Here in Tucson, everyone thinks these cars are made of gold. But two hours north In Phoenix, where I've bought the last three f-bodies I've owned, they are way more reasonable. If you wait long enough, I think you might find a bit of a better deal. But I understand that waiting sucks, and it sounds like you've waited a long time already...
ya i understand that i been searching hard for over 6 months and 1 year on and off. pricing for them is just higher than blue book. and i seach up to 3 hours drive one way. any further and it would have to really look good for the price to check out.
waiting around yes. but thats like needle in the haystack. you may get lucky
even on the forums i dont think ive seen clean title ws6 m6 that go for 5 k on under.
I worked my *** off for almost two years saving up for my bird, it's really easy to talk yourself into pulling the trigger on a cheap one if you come across it. DON'T. This is something you do not want to screw up on. Be patient and wait for the perfect one to show up, it always will
I worked my *** off for almost two years saving up for my bird, it's really easy to talk yourself into pulling the trigger on a cheap one if you come across it. DON'T. This is something you do not want to screw up on. Be patient and wait for the perfect one to show up, it always will
So what ever happened with your car search?
The only thing I have to add is to look at it this way, would you rather pay 4500-5000 for a car with a sketchy history that could require a ton of work, or a car for 8000-10000 for a well maintained car that you do not need to do anything to.
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) BTW - The power antenna mast also has issues - but that should be a $50 fix if it still goes up and down.
