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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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Has anyone ever used the Hella 60mm projectors, and how much would the entire kit cost?

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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 09:16 AM
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Are you referring to BLS kit?
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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I'm guessing....Where could i buy this Kit?
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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http://www.blackbirdlighting.com/
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Old Feb 19, 2016 | 07:04 PM
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I asked for info on the BLS Kit and never got a response so I bought the Breathless Kit instead.
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 07:44 PM
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Looks good but holy crap at the price.
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 08:00 PM
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The top of the line BLS kit is almost the same price as the Breathless Kit.
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Originally Posted by 98Ws6A4
The top of the line BLS kit is almost the same price as the Breathless Kit.
and 10 times better light output compared to the breathless, the breathless is notorious for crappy light output.

BLS has plenty of options these days, you've got a budget low beam model that is just the mounting plate projector and HID kit for a starter kit, then a bump up from there and you get the V.2 kit with the Mini d2s 2.0 projector that when wired up becomes a full high beam when you switch the high beams on, then from there you go up to the setup with the V.2 low beams and the hella 60mm high beams, then you have a setup that is ALL 4 lights as the mini d2s 2.0's, the difference is typically the hella high beams stay halogens but the d2s would be quad HID headlights when you go high beam. it all depends on your budget.

you could effectively replicate the "budget" kit by buying the Hella 60mm from Amazon, a set of plates from that guy on ebay that makes them and use your choice of 9005 HID kits, that would be about 60 bucks for the plates, low 80's for a pair of projectors and anywhere from 30-150 depending on the QUALITY of HID kit you buy.
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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 08:04 PM
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and 10 times better light output compared to the breathless, the breathless is notorious for crappy light output.

BLS has plenty of options these days, you've got a budget low beam model that is just the mounting plate projector and HID kit for a starter kit, then a bump up from there and you get the V.2 kit with the Mini d2s 2.0 projector that when wired up becomes a full high beam when you switch the high beams on, then from there you go up to the setup with the V.2 low beams and the hella 60mm high beams, then you have a setup that is ALL 4 lights as the mini d2s 2.0's, the difference is typically the hella high beams stay halogens but the d2s would be quad HID headlights when you go high beam. it all depends on your budget.

you could effectively replicate the "budget" kit by buying the Hella 60mm from Amazon, a set of plates from that guy on ebay that makes them and use your choice of 9005 HID kits, that would be about 60 bucks for the plates, low 80's for a pair of projectors and anywhere from 30-150 depending on the QUALITY of HID kit you buy.
I would've gladly bought the BLS Kit but like I said I never get a response.
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is there any other options than this expensive kit? no other way to fit a better brighter bulb on there?
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Originally Posted by usnfenix
is there any other options than this expensive kit? no other way to fit a better brighter bulb on there?
well it works in stages:

Stage 1 upgrade: LMC "truck" housings run 35 bucks PER single housing so replacing all 4 will cost you 140 PLUS shipping (this is a noticeable improvement over stock).

Stage 1a upgrade: same as above but swap out the 9006/9005 halogens for HIR 9011/9012 that run about 15-20 dollars per bulb, but are tricky to install as they can pretty much only be found in the right angle base which requires cutting some tabs for clearance, but is another step up in output over the standard LMC without blinding others as it's still basically a halogen bulb.

Stage 1b upgrade: some people choose to just slap HID's into these housings, these are also commonly the people that buy the crappy 30 dollar ebay HID kits so if you did all 4 housings with LMC and replaced just the low beams with the CHEAPEST HID kit you could find you'd be around 170 plus shipping, this however is NOT ADVISED as they produce glare and hotspots that blind other drivers.

Stage 2 upgrade: (previously mentioned above) Hella 60mm with the ebay plates and 9005 HID kit can be done for as low as 42 bucks per projector plus 60 bucks for the plates plus your HID (which for the sake of comparison we'll use the same cheap kit from above) for 30 so an all in cost of 130-140, but this keeps the stock high beams.

Stage 2a upgrade: everything in Stage 2 but add the LMC high beams to clean things up, another 70 plus shipping so a total over 200

or get the "stage 2" with a QUALITY HID kit from BLS for something like 250 (from what I remember of the last group buy).

and on and up in price to get the GREAT STUFF, that blows all of these other ones out of the water (and I've had EVERYONE of them, except the Quad D2S setup so I know what i'm talking about), going from a BLS V2 kit to stock headlights, make the stock headlights look like F'ing fog lights in comparison, You've got to pay to play as they say, but be warned once you experience a PROPER HID setup on this car you will never accept even the LMC housings with Halogens as acceptable light output.

some folks have done some cheap *** ghetto crap where they broke the bulb out of the stock headlight and rigged some HIDs or other bulb in there, but frankly that is stupid and dangerous and unnecessary when something like the LMC housings exist, and frankly the step up from LMC lowe beams to the Hella 60mm budget kit (Stage 2 in my breakdown) is really not more then some fools pay for a par of blue tinted halogens sold under the Silverstar logo so it's really not that bad, I mean we are talking less then the cost of LOWERING SPRINGS to upgrade all 4 lights if done right.
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i bought 2 of these
HELLA 998570001 60mm HB3 Low Beam SAE Headlamp: Amazon.ca: Automotive HELLA 998570001 60mm HB3 Low Beam SAE Headlamp: Amazon.ca: Automotive
and then this kit http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Hella-60mm-Pr...-/141616688304
Then added a 9005 hid kit which i already had, all said and done around $200 canadian for everything, i've yet to install but hooked up the cutoff line is nice and crisp and is incredibly better than stock low beams

don't mind the screws i'm using, they're only temp until i pick up some shiny black ones.



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