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Old 12-12-2005, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RICEBURNER
well...the paint looks purple in the sun but blue in shade and at night...wish i could get a pic...stupid camera
There's not really any blue in it, it's definitely purple. The car in your signature picture appears to be Navy Blue Metallic.

The purple color from '98 looks like this.. paint RPO code is 88U.

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Anybody know how is find out how many 98 Formula WS6 1LE cars were Silver. I know they made 14 total but I curious how many are exactly like mine. Thanks
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Originally Posted by 427 LS1
Anybody know how is find out how many 98 Formula WS6 1LE cars were Silver. I know they made 14 total but I curious how many are exactly like mine. Thanks
'Fraid I haven't seen any details on those 14.

Breakdown of the 129 Camaro 1LEs in 1998: http://www.1le.net/docs/1998_camaro_...n_numbers.html
Camaro 1LE:

10U White - 17
11U Pewter - 30
13U Silver - 9
28U Navy - 8
31U Bright Green - 1
41U Black - 31
63U Gold - 3
79U Teal - 5
81U Red - 18
88U B. Purple - 0
96U Ceyenne - 7
If the percentages are similar for the Formulas, that would be 7% silver out of 14, which is about 1. So if they're similar, yours may well be the only silver one.

Pontiac Historic Services is probably your only chance of finding out for sure. http://www.phs-online.com


Well, there's only 14 of them... I found five (yours makes 6), narrows it down some...

red - Todd Brandon aka 'Reckless'; sold to Chuck aka 'weranc55'; sold to 'b18c1hybrid' - http://www.1le.net/members/Todd_Brandon/index.html , https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-lsx-powered-only/270822-1998-formula-1le-low-10-sec-car.html

red - Bob aka 'NRC-Motorsports' (bought from someone in California) - http://www.fastls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2456 (his is not Reckless's - see http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...x.php/t-122565 where NRC refers to them separately )

black - 'MW2 Performance'/'SloMaroZ' - https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-lsx-powered-only/464665-guaging-interest-98-formula-ws6-m6-1le-1-14-a.html

black - sold on ebay by 'apfina' (Apple Finance) - https://ls1tech.com/forums/special-edition-vehicles/230289-ws6-formula-1le-ebay.html

black - '99SSinOC'/'wtb98ss' (said was sold to someone named Joe, but apparently that fell through, was re-sold four months later) - https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-lsx-powered-only/250049-gauging-interest-98-ws6-1le-sale.html, https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-lsx-powered-only/262151-1998-pontiac-firebird-formula-ws6-1le.html, https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-lsx-powered-only/318572-98-firebird-formula-ws6-1le-6-sp-black-1-14-16k-obo.html, https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-lsx-powered-only/319781-1998-firebird-formula-ws6-1le-14-000-6-speed.html

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Old 04-17-2006, 12:28 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for the input. Dave
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here is a good site for you camaro peeps.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/forum...aysprune=&f=25
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I have a white 98 Formula that is a hardtop A4. 556 hardtops, even less A4 white with 2.73 gears. 270 white formulas.
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anyone know how to get color and actual option break downs? i have a 2001 black on black on black, ws6, ram air, hurst 6 speed and i have never seen one like it (same year) i would like to know how many are actualy out there like mine. only place i found that gives breakdown of it says 1 of 6,, and that is just to good to be true. and would like another to back it up.
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I'd like to see a breakdown of the WS.6 packages for every year, like how many where 6 speed, t-tops, a certain color, ETC.

According the the 1997, only 14% of all 'Birds had the M6, thats me. only 2827 WS.6s made, again me. I'd like to know how many where black though.
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this is a great thread idea......I wonder how rare mine is?? How can u know for sure??
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drohm6 and bdr_ws6 -

For any information not in the links I posted (which unfortunately there are a lot of gaps, particularly in color stats), can do rough general estimate calculations, but there's no way to get actual numbers for anything not there, except what you might be able to get from Pontiac Historical Services.


miamifan3413 -

98 is one of the years fortunate to have more numbers available than most (particularly the color stats)...

2123 total Formula coupes

651 Formula coupes with M6 (30.7% of total Formula coupes)

556 hardtop Formula coupes (2123 - 1567 with t-tops = 556) (26.2% of total Formula coupes)

397 Formula coupes with red exterior (18.7% of total Formula coupes)

so, estimate of how many in that combination: 2123 x 30.7% x 26.2% x 18.7% = approximately 32 cars
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Originally Posted by ACW
drohm6 and bdr_ws6 -
.... might be able to get from Pontiac Historical Services.
What all can you get from there for the newer cars like ours? I thought about getting the package but didn't know if it would be worth it.
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Originally Posted by ACW
drohm6 and bdr_ws6 -

For any information not in the links I posted (which unfortunately there are a lot of gaps, particularly in color stats), can do rough general estimate calculations, but there's no way to get actual numbers for anything not there, except what you might be able to get from Pontiac Historical Services.


miamifan3413 -

98 is one of the years fortunate to have more numbers available than most (particularly the color stats)...

2123 total Formula coupes

651 Formula coupes with M6 (30.7% of total Formula coupes)

556 hardtop Formula coupes (2123 - 1567 with t-tops = 556) (26.2% of total Formula coupes)

397 Formula coupes with red exterior (18.7% of total Formula coupes)

so, estimate of how many in that combination: 2123 x 30.7% x 26.2% x 18.7% = approximately 32 cars
Holy ****.....thanx for the figures
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Originally Posted by ACW
'Fraid I haven't seen any details on those 14.

Breakdown of the 129 Camaro 1LEs in 1998: http://www.1le.net/docs/1998_camaro_...n_numbers.html

If the percentages are similar for the Formulas, that would be 7% silver out of 14, which is about 1. So if they're similar, yours may well be the only silver one.

Pontiac Historic Services is probably your only chance of finding out for sure. http://www.phs-online.com


Well, there's only 14 of them... I found five (yours makes 6), narrows it down some...

red - Todd Brandon aka 'Reckless'; sold to Chuck aka 'weranc55'; sold to 'b18c1hybrid' - http://www.1le.net/members/Todd_Brandon/index.html , https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270822

red - Bob aka 'NRC-Motorsports' (bought from someone in California) - http://www.fastls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2456 (his is not Reckless's - see http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:...x.php/t-122565 where NRC refers to them separately )

black - 'MW2 Performance'/'SloMaroZ' - https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464665

black - sold on ebay by 'apfina' (Apple Finance) - https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230289

black - '99SSinOC'/'wtb98ss' (said was sold to someone named Joe, but apparently that fell through, was re-sold four months later) - https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250049, https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262151, https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318572, https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319781
Gonna bump this one up 'cause i just noticed something.

ACW - those last three cars you listed are all the same car. I think. I read through the threads you posted and it looks like 99SSinOC bought the ebay car, and MW2 performance bought it from 99SSinOC.

I may have a lead on a black '98 1LE here in KC. If i find anything out i'll post up.
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
Gonna bump this one up 'cause i just noticed something.

ACW - those last three cars you listed are all the same car. I think. I read through the threads you posted and it looks like 99SSinOC bought the ebay car, and MW2 performance bought it from 99SSinOC.

I may have a lead on a black '98 1LE here in KC. If i find anything out i'll post up.
LOL. Darn! That certainly is possible. I didn't examine them really closely.

Good luck on that Formula 1LE
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alright, I just bought a 2001 SOM t top 6 speed T/A with 12,000 miles on it. I see they only made 195 of them in 2001, I'd like to know the production number of mine

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hey guys, I live in Albuquerque N.M and new to LS1tech.com but I need some help. I own a 99 Trans am and it's a color thats called 'Bright Green'. Its the only 1 in town except for a firebird. Does anyone know how many were mand in this color?
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Does anyone know where I can find info 0on the color "Bright Green" I have a 9 T/A and its the only 1 in town
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I'm surprised it didn't list how many Formulas are WS6 like mine Anyone know by chance? 93 Formula WS6 Hard Top A4.
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kinda gives me a new found respect for my car, 1 of 2755 in 1999 WS-6 coupe
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Anyone able to calc out how many were made in 93 of the Formula, with leather, hard top and automatic? PM would be awesome!

This site seems thurough http://www.thepontiactransampage.com/production.html

Thanks, if not, I know I'm 1 or LESS than 790


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