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Old 02-06-2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by brynnda
thats all the info ive ever been able to find, too. thanx
I dug through my old hardcopy files and found that more detailed listing, looks like some guy had these breakdowns posted on his college web-page (no longer there, I just checked). I even found that I had printed out breakdowns for '94-'98 (I had printed these in 3/99, so that's all the years I have). Sometime I'll copy this info into a spreadsheet and post it for all.

Of the 8656 '97 TA coupes built, 2827 were WS6s (this number is higher than the previously posted #, probably includes Canadian-sold cars), 1569 were white, and 5672 had A4s.
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curious question, l bought a 02 ws6 ceta, can l find what number it is by the vin or do l havta call gm for it? also exactly whats the name of the color its painted, besides yellow,lol
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curious question, l bought a 02 ws6 ceta, can l find what number it is by the vin or do l havta call gm for it? also exactly whats the name of the color its painted, besides yellow,lol
Try the Collector's Edition website.....http://www.collectorfbody.com/
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My 2002 Trans Am does not have Traction controlled as it states that ALL MODELS have it
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
I dug through my old hardcopy files and found that more detailed listing, looks like some guy had these breakdowns posted on his college web-page (no longer there, I just checked). I even found that I had printed out breakdowns for '94-'98 (I had printed these in 3/99, so that's all the years I have). Sometime I'll copy this info into a spreadsheet and post it for all.

Of the 8656 '97 TA coupes built, 2827 were WS6s (this number is higher than the previously posted #, probably includes Canadian-sold cars), 1569 were white, and 5672 had A4s.

thank you so so much, ive called slp and they said unfortunantly there are no build numbers for these cars. i was hoping MAYBE they kept some kind of record of color, tranny, t top or vert.


so with the info you just gave me, there were 1,569 white WS6 T/A's built in 97, can anyone find out how many of those were 6 speed or auto?

edit = 463 97's were convertible

http://www.marshu.com/ws6-car-gm-fir...-2000-2001.php

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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
My 2002 Trans Am does not have Traction controlled as it states that ALL MODELS have it

is it a ws6?
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So it appears I wont be able to get the build numbers for a 2000 Trans Am 6-speed, T-top, Pewter silver car?
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Originally Posted by brynnda
so with the info you just gave me, there were 1,569 white WS6 T/A's built in 97, can anyone find out how many of those were 6 speed or auto?

edit = 463 97's were convertible

http://www.marshu.com/ws6-car-gm-fir...-2000-2001.php
Oops, sorry I didn't see this sooner. 1,569 White T/A coupes were built in '97, including both WS6s and non-WS6s. I have no record of how may of the 2827 WS6 coupes were white, or how many of the 1596 White coupes were WS6s.
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Originally Posted by brynnda
is it a ws6?
Nope, not a WS6.. Does that make a difference?
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
Oops, sorry I didn't see this sooner. 1,569 White T/A coupes were built in '97, including both WS6s and non-WS6s. I have no record of how may of the 2827 WS6 coupes were white, or how many of the 1596 White coupes were WS6s.
Hey Johnny, man thanks for all the info. It's great to know. Mine is black which should have been one of the more popular colors, I assume. There's obviously no way of knowing what the production number of those are.

How does someone go about determining what number theirs is...ie: #459 of 2827? That would be nice to know.

Thanks again...
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So i called up the gm techline number 1-866-952-4368 and asked if they could give me my build number, and how many were produced exactly optioned like mine. The guy said i will have to call you back. He called back the next day to tell me the only info he could find is how many total firebird were made. So then for the heck of it i called SLP and they said the only firebirds they touched and would have info on is the firehawks. So all im dying to know is my build number of my car, how many were made just like it.

2000 Trans am Ram air, not WS6 ram air package, M6, T-tops, ebony leather, traction control, skip shift elmintator, Pewter silver, ac, monsoon cd player, power everything.
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Originally Posted by DaSkinnyGuy
So i called up the gm techline number 1-866-952-4368 and asked if they could give me my build number, and how many were produced exactly optioned like mine. The guy said i will have to call you back. He called back the next day to tell me the only info he could find is how many total firebird were made. So then for the heck of it i called SLP and they said the only firebirds they touched and would have info on is the firehawks. So all im dying to know is my build number of my car, how many were made just like it.

2000 Trans am Ram air, not WS6 ram air package
, M6, T-tops, ebony leather, traction control, skip shift elmintator, Pewter silver, ac, monsoon cd player, power everything.
The only "build number" you have on a non-WS6 / non-WU6 (Firehawk) T/A is the GM sequence number in the VIN (last 6 digits). All cars were serialized by the manufacturer as they started down the assembly line. The "build number" most people refer to though is the additional "conversion number" assigned to a particular car by SLP (for SS: '96-'02, WS6: '96-'97, and Firehawk: '91-'02) and ASC (for WS6 - '98-'02) when they added the parts that made the car what it is.

The only breakdown I've got for '00s is:

2000 total: 31826
Firebird 13529 coupe; 1149 vert; 14678 total
Formula 1302 coupe; 233 WS6 coupe; 1535 total
Trans Am 6639 coupe; 783 vert; 7166 WS6 coupe; 1025 WS6 vert; 15613 total

Your car is one of the 6639 T/A coupes (non-WS6) built in '00. It's actually more rare than a WS6 that year.
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Good thread, didn't know how rare my car was when I bought it 3 years ago, but this info makes appreciate even more. Thanks for taking the time to do the research on this!
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what about mine. i do not ahve a WS6 and it stats that all models have tcs......
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
what about mine. i do not ahve a WS6 and it stats that all models have tcs......
The 2002 #s:

2002 GM Pontiac Firebird Build Counts - Build at St. Therese Assembly Thursday January 13th 2005


A total of 30,690 Firebirds were built for worldwide distribution..
Sold orders (ordered by customer specifically) 4,454
Fleet orders 721

5,192 were Convertible models

23,648 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels

26,391 had FE9 Federal Emissions System
2,018 had NG1 Northeast Emissions System
2,269 had YF5 California Emissions System

20,769 had the LS1 Gen III V8 Engine (67.7%)
9,921 had the L36 3800 Series V6 (32.3%)

16,837 had NW9 Traction Control (54.9%)
5,934 had U1S 12 Disc CD changer (19.3%)

14,908 had the WS6 Ram Air Package (48.6%)

1,500 had the WU6 Firehawk Package (4.9%)

2,391 had the Z15 Collector Package (7.8%)


Convertible Top Colors:

10T White 137 units
41T Black 4,455 units
56T Taupe 600 units


Total Firebird Color Breakdown:

10U White 2,918 9.5%
11U Pewter 4,302 14.0%
13U Silver 3,089 10.1%
28U Dk Blue 3,290 10.7%
41U Black 7,572 24.7%
44U Maple 867 2.8%
54U C/E Yellow 2,391 7.8%
71U S.O.M. 1,208 3.9%
81U Red 5,053 16.5%

Interior Breakdown:

19B Ebony Cloth 7,378 24.0%
192 Ebony Leath 14,832 48.3%
194 C/E Leather 2,391 7.8%
52B Taupe Cloth 1,078 3.5%
522 Taupe Leather 2,230 7.3%


FIREBIRD V6 COUPE 8,423 units (11.6% of production)

1,000 units had MM5 Manual transmission (11.9%)
7,423 units had MX0 Automatic Transmission (88.1%)

2,567 units had NW9 Traction control (30.5%)
7,375 had FE9 Emissions (87.6%)
425 had NG1 Emissions (5.0%)
619 had YF5 Emissions (7.3%)

6,573 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels (78%)

2,056 had Y87 Performance package (24.4%)

10U 982 units
11U 1,470 units
13U 1,188 units
28U 946 units
44U 415 units
41U 1,545 units
71U 372 units
81U 1,505 units


V6 Convertible 1,498 units (2.1% of production)

All had MX0 Automatic Transmission
401 had NW9 Traction Control
1,233 had FE9 Emissions
66 had NG1 Emissions
199 had YF5 Emissions

34 had 10T white conv. top
1,268 had 41T black conv. top
196 had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 289 units
11U 294 units
13U 102 units
28U 88 units
41U 114 units
44U 213 units
71U 28 units
81U 370 units


FORMULA COUPE 901 UNITS 1.2% OF PRODUCTION

409 units had MN6 6-speed transmission
492 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
473 units had NW9 Traction Control

729 had FE9 Emissions
95 had NG1 Emissions
76 had YF5 Emissions

167 had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 70 Units
11U 124 units
13U 90 units
28U 142 units
41U 244 units
44U 42 units
71U 51 units
81U 138 units


TRANS AM COUPE 3,962 5.5% OF PRODUCTION

1,591 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
2,371 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
2,732 units had NW9 Traction Control

3,345 units had FE9 Emissions
273 units had NG1 Emissions
344 units had YF5 Emissions

1,131 units had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 343 units
11U 408 units
13U 408 units
28U 474 units
41U 1,215 units
44U 145 units
71U 135 units
81U 834 units


TRANS AM CONVERTIBLE 998 UNITS (1.4% OF PRODUCTION)

235 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
763 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
578 units had NW9 Traction control

858 units had FE9 Emissions
71 units had NG1 Emissions
67 units had YF5 Emissions

202 units had WU6 Firehawk Package

36 units had 10T white convert. Top
777 units had 41T black convert. Top
185 units had 56T Taupe convert. Top


10U 84 units
11U 246 units
13U 58 units
28U 109 units
41U 261 units
44U 52 units
71U 26 units
81U 162 units


WS6 RAM AIR COUPES 12,212 UNITS (16.9% OF PRODUCTION)

6,828 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
5,384 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
8,115 units had NW9 Traction Control

10,601 had FE9 Emissions
833 had NG1 Emissions
775 had YF5 Emissions

1,349 units were Z15 Collector Editions

10U 986 units
11U 1,585 units
13U 1,112 units
28U 1,327 units
41U 3,630 units
54U (C/E) 1,349 units
71U 525 units
81U 1,698 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLES 2,696 UNITS (3.7% OF PRODUCTION)

1,176 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
1,520 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
1,971 units had NW9 Traction Control

2,250 had FE9 Emissions
255 had NG1 Emissions
189 had YF5 Emissions

1,042 were Z15 Collector Editions


67 units had 10T white conv. top
2,410 units had 41T Black conv. top
219 units had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 164 units
11U 175 units
13U 131 units
28U 204 units
41U 563 units
54U (C/E) 1,042 units
71U 71 units
81U 346 units



WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL


10U 454 units
11U 963 units
13U 613 units
28U 738 units
41U 2,066 units
54U 842 units
71U 304 units
81U 848 units


WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 532 units
11U 622 units
13U 499 units
28U 589 units
41U 1,564 units
54U 507 units
71U 221 units
81U 850 units

WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH 6-SPEED

10U 56 units
11U 71 units
13U 51 units
28U 74 units
41U 221 units
54U 554 units
71U 30 units
81U 119 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 108 units
11U 104 units
13U 80 units
28U 130 units
41U 342 units
54U 488 units
71U 41 units
81U 227 units


FIREHAWK COUPE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANS

10U 60 units
11U 54 units
13U 84 units
28U 127 units
41U 348 units
71U 60 units
81U 150 units

FIREHAWK COUPE WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

10U 28 units
11U 49 units
13U 40 units
28U 76 units
41U 121 units
71U 25 units
81U 76 units

FIREHAWK CONVERTIBLE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL

10U 8 units
11U 9 units
13U 6 units
28U 23 units
41U 45 units
71U 11 units
81U 26 units


FIREHAWK CONVERTIBLE WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

10U 8 units
11U 5 units
13U 1 unit
28U 17 units
41U 26 units
71U 4 units
81U 13 units
Looks like your car is one of 834 Red '02 T/A Coupes built.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
The 2002 #s:



Looks like your car is one of 834 Red '02 T/A Coupes built.


Yup that is what i got

that is kinda cool to know, and like i said i have no TCS.. now how can i get a build sheet with my number?
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
Yup that is what i got

that is kinda cool to know, and like i said i have no TCS.. now how can i get a build sheet with my number?
Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
what about mine. i do not ahve a WS6 and it stats that all models have tcs......
Barely more than 1/2 of all '02 Firebirds had TCS:

16,837 had NW9 Traction Control (54.9%)
So obviously NOT all models had TCS.

WRT a build sheet for your car, the driver's door decal contains all the RPOs installed on your car. PHS may be able to provide a copy of your window sticker, but I heard they are no longer providing that service. As a last resort, take your VIN# to a dealership and have them run it through their computer to get a printout of all the RPOs for your car. That's about as good as you're going to get.
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i dont or didnt see the 99 fomula black t top m6 car listed?? help?
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I have a black 93 Formula M6 (1 of 756) hardtop with leather and the high (GT?) rear spoiler. Low production number car, but not rare - values to low
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damn where did you get that huge list of 2002 info, can we get the 2001 breakdown


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