Automatic formula performance
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Automatic formula performance I will admit that I know nothing about V8's so I came here to get some answers. My friend has a 99 firebird formula automatic. I was wondering what kind of power it puts to the wheels stock. What kind of power should he expect with "long tube headers" and "true duals". Also what kind of 60', 0-60, and 1/4 mile should he expect assuming he is an average driver. He also has 245/?/16 nitto nt 450's.
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WOW!! 13.5 is really impressive for a bone stock automatic. This can't be typical can it? When looking over the internet I saw sites that said that the 98 forumula 6 speed does 13.8 in the quarter.
I know that some of you may not like the g-tech performance meter numbers but he did 5.54 0-60 down hill, 5.94 and 6.09 0-60 on flat roads when it was stock. Is this accurate?
I know that some of you may not like the g-tech performance meter numbers but he did 5.54 0-60 down hill, 5.94 and 6.09 0-60 on flat roads when it was stock. Is this accurate?
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Originally Posted by b16coupe
WOW!! 13.5 is really impressive for a bone stock automatic. This can't be typical can it? When looking over the internet I saw sites that said that the 98 forumula 6 speed does 13.8 in the quarter.
I know that some of you may not like the g-tech performance meter numbers but he did 5.54 0-60 down hill, 5.94 and 6.09 0-60 on flat roads when it was stock. Is this accurate?
I know that some of you may not like the g-tech performance meter numbers but he did 5.54 0-60 down hill, 5.94 and 6.09 0-60 on flat roads when it was stock. Is this accurate?
on a complete level surface, a healthy running ls1 firebird/camaro will do a 0-60 in 5 seconds flat
as for your earlier questions, i don't have a formula (ive a trans am) and its not 99, its a 2000.. but its an a4. there's very little difference between my car (when it was stock) and that formula.
with my only modifications being subframe connectors (they only add a little weight, and stiffen the chassis.. not a power adder) and an aftermarket airlid, i dynoed at 323 rwhp.. dont remember the torque, but if you really want i'll dig it up.
a healthy running ls1 firebird/camaro will run about 13.2 in a 1/4mi ... every car's different, so i've seen a few go 12.9 and a few go 13.5. this is, of course, assuming you're not at 527847237573 feet elevation.
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Well that is no good for me. I guess it will be time for some forged internals for my little civic so I can turn up the boost because I'm sure it won't run anywhere in the 12's yet.
Originally Posted by b16coupe
I will admit that I know nothing about V8's so I came here to get some answers. My friend has a 99 firebird formula automatic. I was wondering what kind of power it puts to the wheels stock. What kind of power should he expect with "long tube headers" and "true duals". Also what kind of 60', 0-60, and 1/4 mile should he expect assuming he is an average driver. He also has 275/?/16 nitto nt 450's.
as far as the times go, welcome to florida. near sea level helps.
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Originally Posted by b16coupe
WOW!! 13.5 is really impressive for a bone stock automatic. This can't be typical can it? When looking over the internet I saw sites that said that the 98 forumula 6 speed does 13.8 in the quarter.
I know that some of you may not like the g-tech performance meter numbers but he did 5.54 0-60 down hill, 5.94 and 6.09 0-60 on flat roads when it was stock. Is this accurate?
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I told him about a million times to press the brake and give it gas to launch it but he refuses to. I finally got him to stop flooring it off the line so his launching strategy now is to go about 3/4 trottle and give it more gas as it starts to get more traction. His car feels like a monster off the line but it feels like it struggles after about 50 mph (this is comparing it to my car).
How would my friend's forumula compare to the 94ish camaro z28 m6 in terms of 0-60 and quarter mile in stock form.
How would my friend's forumula compare to the 94ish camaro z28 m6 in terms of 0-60 and quarter mile in stock form.
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....but it feels like it struggles after about 50 mph (this is comparing it to my car).
How would my friend's forumula compare to the 94ish camaro z28 m6 in terms of 0-60 and quarter mile in stock form.
How would my friend's forumula compare to the 94ish camaro z28 m6 in terms of 0-60 and quarter mile in stock form.
the formula would destroy the 94 z28, stock for stock. ls1 vs lt1 == no comparison. 2 completely different motors... with ls1 being the better one, by far. (sorry, lt1 guys.. lets not open up this can of worms).
use the search button. read some threads.
by the way, your friend refuses to brake because he most likely doesn't want to fsck up his brakes. get him to invest in a linelock, they are dirt cheap. the way they work is, you press a button and voila.. your rear brakes are disabled, car's held in place by the front wheels. since we are rear wheel drive, and the brake's disabled on the back wheels - there's no screwing up the brakes.
just remember to turn them back on once you get going.....
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When I was saying that it struggled, I really didn't mean that it felt slow. I was just kind of comparing it to my car which is slow as nuts off the line but just feels faster in the midrange and topend. But I know my ability to feel isn't an accurate way to judge.
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Originally Posted by b16coupe
When I was saying that it struggled, I really didn't mean that it felt slow. I was just kind of comparing it to my car which is slow as nuts off the line but just feels faster in the midrange and topend. But I know my ability to feel isn't an accurate way to judge.
But my friends 00 Z28 A4 was scary quick from highway speeds. That thing did 70-100 in no time.
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But my friends 00 Z28 A4 was scary quick from highway speeds. That thing did 70-100 in no time.
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0-60= overated/retarded form of "performance" analyzation
GM (A4) 4l60e automatic transmission's= awesome/no joke
Firebird Formula= one of the lightest f-body's
Average STOCK F-body dyno #'s= ~290-320 RWHP & ~310-340 RWTQ
Average Quarter mile= ~13.3
LS1 top end= the ****
Acceptable/average 60' on street tires= 2.0
Average HP after full exhaust (ie. Long Tubes & True Duals) = ~350 RWHP
Does the LS1 struggle after about 50 mph? HELL NO! It DOMINATES!
Good.
And welcome to the forum. Feel free to ask more questions.
GM (A4) 4l60e automatic transmission's= awesome/no joke
Firebird Formula= one of the lightest f-body's
Average STOCK F-body dyno #'s= ~290-320 RWHP & ~310-340 RWTQ
Average Quarter mile= ~13.3
LS1 top end= the ****
Acceptable/average 60' on street tires= 2.0
Average HP after full exhaust (ie. Long Tubes & True Duals) = ~350 RWHP
Does the LS1 struggle after about 50 mph? HELL NO! It DOMINATES!
Originally Posted by b16coupe
But I know my ability to feel isn't an accurate way to judge.
And welcome to the forum. Feel free to ask more questions.
