Hey Guys,



1)Would SLP's Fan control switch do me any good. My mods are listed below, but I can be considered pretty much stock. I do go to the track a lot, so Im curious as to if it would help me run better.http://www.lmperformance.com/763/1.html

2)160 thermostat. Is it worth it with a pretty stock engine. I mean its not too much money to spend, Im curious if I will run any better, and if it will help me at all for 1/4 times, and speed.

3)Line-Lockers
http://www.schochperformance.com/de...tnumber=1745000
Would these function for me, and what would they do?

Thank you very much guys!

 

Dont get the 160*.This could cause computer errors.

Get a 180.They dont help 1/4 times but they make the entire cooling process start sooner leading to more and constant horsepower output longer.

 

how does a 180* thermo start the cooling process sooner? a 160* thermo opens at 160*...while a 180* thermo opens at 180*...so, if the 160 opens sooner....how does the 180 start the cooling process sooner?

 

I think what he means is the 180 starts sooner than a stock thermo does...

91 V6...can you explain more about the computer errors caused by a 160 degree thermo...this is the first time I've seen/read/heard about it...

 

Yeah,Your computer will always think the engine is warming up and will operate in closed loop mode.This will cause an error

 

I had a 160 stat in my 91 and never had that problem.

 

Oh yeah it is not a definate...It COULD cause computer errors.
I would not run 160.That is just too cold.We must understand even the middle mark 220 is not really hot,its warm but not hot.180 is lowest I would go.

 

Thanks..

And as for the fan control switch and the line lockers?

 

Yeah, get the fan switch if you'd like..Probably better of you live in a warm climate.

Line lockers...I dont know

 

160 * Thermostats are really only needed if your running a Supercharger,Turbo or Nitrous....

 

Thanks for your usefull information, where is everybody else????i need more opinions!

 

180 is the stock thermo, or so i thought.

 

Well
98-02 Camaros and Firebirds came with 180º
Every other car is 195º

 

yes...and he has a 02....i didnt realize we were talking about another car..

 

I've got two 2002's...and neither have a 180 stock...they have 195.

 

V6 Models did.

 

Ahhh...ok...(don't know a lot about the specs on the V6's).

Now a question going back to the computer issue because I'm still trying to learn about the tuning on these things...my understanding is that you want a closed loop ideally. From what I understand, you start in an open loop, and once warm and other conditions are met, it switches to closed loop. I've seen people (usually with huge cams or other major modifications) talking about always running in an open loop after tuning. I think I've also read how there's no LTRIM learning in open loop and the O2 sensors have no function...which to me would make sense then for open loop to be the initial mode upon start.

Which if I'm understanding things right, I think my car goes into closed loop before 160 degrees, which if that's the case, a 160 degree thermo shouldn't throw off the computer from going into a closed loop.

ok..just did some more reading and looking at the settings in LS1Edit...for an 2002 V8, it's set to go into closed loop at either 33.5 degree celcius (~90 degree farenheit) or 60 degree celcius (~140 degrees farenheit) depending on the outside air temp. So...then I'm not seeing how a 160 thermo can keep it from going into a closed loop because it will be in a closed loop before the temp. at which the thermo opens...maybe you can explain further? Also could you explain further since you want the car in a closed loop...

 

at a specific temperature threshold (155 on my LO3, for instance), the TCC will no longer lock. This *can* lead to transmission overheating and failure. Other concerns include the same minimum-temperature criteria for closed loop operation, which will severely degrade fuel economy (Recently had to ditch my 160 because it was overcooling in winter and dipping below 155 on the highway)