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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Not even an intake, just the hood and raised lower air box. Plus a slightly better flowing muffler (2.5" outlets vs 2.25"). Those are the only differences that will effect power.

Truth is, those things are not really enough to make a WS6 any faster than a regular TA. It would be a driver's race, plain and simple.

yea they actually weigh more...when i had only my lid and ported tb i was taking them with ezzz
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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As many have said before...a ls1 is a ls1 is a ls1. I too feel your pain as people seem to think my t/a must just be a v6 or another non-worthy POS as it is not a "WS6". I was going to get a ram air hood so that it looked as good as it performed, but now I kinda like the suprise factor of a less mean looking car.

Your next steps performancewise should be a set of long tube headers and a stall.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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but your car IS slow.

go on, get in it and stomp the throttle.
flashes to 1600rpm and then you wait for it to get fast..

what you need is a HIGH STALL torque converter.
it feels like downshifting two gears BUT FROM A STOP
then you will need sticky tires.

THEN you will be fast "like a stick"




seriously though.
i have a trans am too.
i got the WS6 hood and a high stall
and i whooped up on a 2000 WS6 w/ six-speed manual

when people say, "oh, its not a WS6/stick?" and give you a
just do a nuff said.
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Old Jul 3, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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I purposly got a non ws6 cause I want people to think its slow so that I can take there money. Sleepers are the way to go
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Nothing at all wrong with an auto T/A. I just bought the WS6 cause it has a little more 'wow' factor and seems to turn more heads. My car is stock and I know against a stock z28/trans am that it'd be a drivers race.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FLA02TA
I thought the base model T/A's had better gears? 3.23's vs 2.73's. Or am I wrong?
All M6 Fbody's have 3.42 gears. Standard gears for A4 are 2.73 with GM optional of 3.23

SS & WS6 A4's had 3.23's stock.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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Around where I live you got people that think Formula's are Firehawks, and no clue what the hell a WS6 even is.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JeaneGrae
I hear what you guys are saying but it just pisses me off to hear all of the trash talk and no one will line up with me.
I know what you mean. I always have people ask me if my car is stock, so I telll them yead. Then they always want to race with their little 4 bangers or 6 bangers, always say something like its only a 4 banger are you scared so I tell them to line up and they dissappear.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Yup... Happens all the time to me too. They think because I'm not driving ANY form of a TA, their probes would whoop up on me. They line up and get clowned horribly, then try to play it off on a shitty start, or missing the gate from 1st to 2nd or some gay **** like that when the reality is, THEY GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED. At least the mustang GT owners around here are smart and don't try a whole lot of ****.... it's those damn ricer kids that drive me nuts.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by catfSSh
im the other way around, im tired of people telling me "youve got an SS, hes got a z28, youre faster"

its just annoying that people are dumb

I feel your pain, people are like "OMG YOU GOT RAM AIR!!#&$!&#$&!#%! I just gave up telling people its a handling package.
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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hehe don't feel bad, I have a 99 WS6 and it's soooooooooooooooooo slow, my 00 stock z28 could run laps around it!
Anyway when I had my z28 everyone thought that it was a v6 because it didn't have the hood and body panels and the emblems were the same color as the body..black. I know how aggervating it is to have people say stupid things about the differences between a SS and a Z28 or between a Trans am and the WS6.. same thing to me.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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wow gotta love peoples basic knowledge of cars!.. me being in HS i talk to a bunch of people that well think they have "the ****" on wheels when its literally that lol... people tel me they have porsches and other **** but never show up to school with it??....lol cant wait till i roll up this year with my debaged 1994 formula... granted it will have a ram air hood... i dont think anyones gonna **** with my car when they hear it
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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man, have i got a thread for you guys... :lmao:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/chevrolet-camaro-1967-2002/542508-functional-ss-hood-i-guess-not.html
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
mines obviously slow.. i mean, its a thirdgen.. its a convertible... and it even says RS on the badges...
I've got one of those really slow 3rd gen RS convertibles , too.... But just to be safe I also have an '01 T/A.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Same reason people assume that if you have an A4 you don't know how to drive.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I get more love then hate with my Formula. I've heard the you don't have RAM AIR thing before even by WS6 owners but it's mostly on the web. The best laugh I had recently was a buddy of mine pulled into my driveway to show me his new rims on his Mini Cooper S. He said he had started modding his Mini by adding a new pully and he was ready to take on my Firebird now. I just had a grin on my face, told him about my mods and then asked him "are you sure you want to Fred"? He said no, the 4.11's made him change his mind (like I wouldn't rape his *** with the 3.42's). I later kicked myself in the *** for not taken him for $100.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by badjuju342
I've got one of those really slow 3rd gen RS convertibles , too.... But just to be safe I also have an '01 T/A.

lol... so you know about what a super-sleeper they are.... you can have a cammed LS1 with open headers, and they still will think its just a slow 305 with some loud exhaust...
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gun5
wow gotta love peoples basic knowledge of cars!.. me being in HS i talk to a bunch of people that well think they have "the ****" on wheels when its literally that lol... people tel me they have porsches and other **** but never show up to school with it??....lol cant wait till i roll up this year with my debaged 1994 formula... granted it will have a ram air hood... i dont think anyones gonna **** with my car when they hear it
Its funny you mention stuff about HS. Everybody talked **** and some people never got out of that mentality. I explain to people when I think its worth my time what my car is. I've raced all sorts of cars before from pickups and ricers to modded 1st gen camaros in my formula. I hardly provoke anyone unless its worth my gas. I will race and make a lot of people feel stupid if I am provoked though. I lost a whole pack of ricers one night on the highway and got to 155 and no one was close to me. This is in a lightly modded Formula mind you. You just have to read the situation and never act as stupid as all of the **** talkers out there. Mines an auto and I don't have to worry about missing a gear either. M6s are for fun autos FTW.
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