Trans Am > Formula ?
04-17-2007, 10:41 PM
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wow, i am going to throw my .02 from what i red....
mid 01 LS1s had the LS6 intake on. Cams were different on the cars.
'98: 198/209 .500"/.500" 119.5
'99-'00: 198/209 .500"/.500" 119.5
'01-'02: 196/207 .467"/.479" 116
All LS1 have Aluminum D/S. the ram air does work, jsut not till about 80 mph. all stick cars came with 3.42. autos had either a 3.23 or 2.73
that is all can really think of......
mid 01 LS1s had the LS6 intake on. Cams were different on the cars.
'98: 198/209 .500"/.500" 119.5
'99-'00: 198/209 .500"/.500" 119.5
'01-'02: 196/207 .467"/.479" 116
All LS1 have Aluminum D/S. the ram air does work, jsut not till about 80 mph. all stick cars came with 3.42. autos had either a 3.23 or 2.73
that is all can really think of......
04-18-2007, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Are you a former import owner or what? Stability at 75 mph is pretty silly, your car would be just as stable without a hatch at all, maybe even no hood either....at 75 mph.
Talk 175 mph and we'll pay more attention.
BTW, the faster f-body drag racers typically get rid of their T/A wing and go with more low profile Formula or sheetmetal wings for a reason. It isn't because the T/A wing works better.
it could be just not used to that huge wing in the back window.
yes i know most faster drag cars are usualy hardtop formulas or stripper camaros due to the weight.
so +1 for me bein a jackass
^ torch i have seen 2.73 cars have steel driveshafts
04-18-2007, 02:22 AM
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I was considering changing mine over to T/A but had also heard the hatch issue being heavier. You might want to look into Lexan glass, which is supposed to be much lighter than the factory glass. Makes the weight hit much easier to take.
I also saw in person a few steel driveshafts on the 2.73 cars. Mine is aluminum with 3.23s- G80 axle code.
I also saw in person a few steel driveshafts on the 2.73 cars. Mine is aluminum with 3.23s- G80 axle code.
04-18-2007, 07:55 AM
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There was a recal with some balancing issues, the remedy for the recall was to remove the steel drive shafts adn replace them with the Alum ones. GM then sent the new cars off of the assembly line with Alum only at some point in the build years.
04-18-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneakyws6
There was a recal with some balancing issues, the remedy for the recall was to remove the steel drive shafts adn replace them with the Alum ones. GM then sent the new cars off of the assembly line with Alum only at some point in the build years.
there was a huge balancing problem..... my buddies 97 TA, he has had it balanced 3 times now.. still is not right. so he has an alum d/s to put on
04-18-2007, 09:38 PM
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I guess I just can't figure out what is different about the actual hatch to add more weight. Since the spoiler is basically just raised up, being non-metallic. I thought yo couldn't add the spoiler to the normal Firebird because the mounting holes.
Oh well.
Oh well.
04-19-2007, 12:18 AM
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You don't add a T/A spoiler to a Firebird hatch, you change the hatch from a Firebird to a T/A one. Counterpart, you can add the higher wing on the firebird, like the one from Wingswest, but don't get mistaken, i'm talking about the one that actually extends the firebird wing, not the towel hanger.
04-19-2007, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Formula350
That little bit of spoiler adds that much weight to make it noticeable? The bumpers are damn near the same. I just can't imagine anyone being able to notice it. Now a ricer, going from none, to a whole bunch, that makes sense.
Oh just wanted to add, I have put a WS9 hood on my car, and there is actually a big square cut out behind the nostrils leading directly into the opening of the intake lid (which is more than we can say for GM's WS6 hood)... and I must say still NO noticable difference in power at all.
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04-19-2007, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000badbird
the formula "v6" hatch is hollow the t/a hatch is soilid the spoiler on top is solid as well that extra material is where the weight is.
Thank you. THAT makes much more sense now!
04-24-2007, 08:25 PM
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This thread makes my head hurt...
As far as power ratings... an LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1. No matter the factory rating, or trim level, Trans Am, Z28, SS, Formula, Corvette... they all make around the same power stock.
The only things that make them slightly faster than each other is weight, gearing, and transmission selection. End of story.
As far as power ratings... an LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1. No matter the factory rating, or trim level, Trans Am, Z28, SS, Formula, Corvette... they all make around the same power stock.
The only things that make them slightly faster than each other is weight, gearing, and transmission selection. End of story.
04-24-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerShift408
This thread makes my head hurt...
As far as power ratings... an LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1. No matter the factory rating, or trim level, Trans Am, Z28, SS, Formula, Corvette... they all make around the same power stock.
The only things that make them slightly faster than each other is weight, gearing, and transmission selection. End of story.
As far as power ratings... an LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1. No matter the factory rating, or trim level, Trans Am, Z28, SS, Formula, Corvette... they all make around the same power stock.
The only things that make them slightly faster than each other is weight, gearing, and transmission selection. End of story.
agreed
04-25-2007, 11:27 AM
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^^^^^ I was asking around how accurate title weights are, 'till someone showed me the way to a scale by me. They never are dead on. IDK why or when they weigh it.
My title shows 3250, wich is close but my car actually weighed in at 3500 with half tank gas, some hockey equip inside and a subwoofer and amp. Like I say it was close, but was off by at least 150.
My title shows 3250, wich is close but my car actually weighed in at 3500 with half tank gas, some hockey equip inside and a subwoofer and amp. Like I say it was close, but was off by at least 150.
04-25-2007, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000badbird
^^^^ yeah but just at 3400 is what i have always heard a formy weighs. i cant be for sure until i weigh mine and subtract 38 pounds
I have to go back one night w/out all the crap in my car. I was silly not to do it right the first time but it was a last minute decision to go. I was also worried about sitting there too long as its not a public scale. I'll also go rear wheels then front wheels. I'll keep you posted, if you wanna know.
04-25-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by thingthatgoes
38 punds? Gas I presume?
I have to go back one night w/out all the crap in my car. I was silly not to do it right the first time but it was a last minute decision to go. I was also worried about sitting there too long as its not a public scale. I'll also go rear wheels then front wheels. I'll keep you posted, if you wanna know.
I have to go back one night w/out all the crap in my car. I was silly not to do it right the first time but it was a last minute decision to go. I was also worried about sitting there too long as its not a public scale. I'll also go rear wheels then front wheels. I'll keep you posted, if you wanna know.