HELP argue a 97 Formula is not a RAM AIR
08-09-2012, 02:51 AM
#41
Another thing to consider with his buddy's car is the fact that IIRC, ALL WS6s were t-top cars, no hardtops, when the SS's were available in both. His buddies car CAN'T be a WS6, unless that was different for the LT1s vs. the LS1s.
08-09-2012, 03:26 AM
#42
Also, this thread was started in 2007.
But to set the record straight:
96-97 you could get a base formula or a base trans am, or a WS6 formula or a WS6 Trans am.
The ws6 cars came with (most noteably):
17x9 wheels
Ram air Hood
Bigger front sway bar
The only way you could get a "ram air" non-ws6 car is on a covertible, and there is not many of them as mentioned earlier. They werent called a "ws6" becuase they didn't have the bigger wheels/tires or the larger front sway bar.
08-09-2012, 07:57 AM
#43
you can get a hardtop ws6 in Lt1 cars, both formula and trans am.
Also, this thread was started in 2007.
But to set the record straight:
96-97 you could get a base formula or a base trans am, or a WS6 formula or a WS6 Trans am.
The ws6 cars came with (most noteably):
17x9 wheels
Ram air Hood
Bigger front sway bar
The only way you could get a "ram air" non-ws6 car is on a covertible, and there is not many of them as mentioned earlier. They werent called a "ws6" becuase they didn't have the bigger wheels/tires or the larger front sway bar.
Also, this thread was started in 2007.
But to set the record straight:
96-97 you could get a base formula or a base trans am, or a WS6 formula or a WS6 Trans am.
The ws6 cars came with (most noteably):
17x9 wheels
Ram air Hood
Bigger front sway bar
The only way you could get a "ram air" non-ws6 car is on a covertible, and there is not many of them as mentioned earlier. They werent called a "ws6" becuase they didn't have the bigger wheels/tires or the larger front sway bar.
08-09-2012, 08:26 AM
#44
A convertible car with Ram Air still has the WS6 option package. I've already shown that in 1997, there were 3,371 WS6 cars and 3,371 cars with the temporary hood option.
The same holds true for 1996 with 1,869 of both options.
IF any convertible cars were built with Ram Air and WITHOUT WS6, the temporary hood option production number would be greater than the WS6 production number.
IF a convertible car was ordered with the Ram Air option and not the WS6 option (as appeared to be allowed by the sales brochure) the WS6 option was added in when the production order was processed-even if some of the other WS6 options did not come with the convertible package.
As compnine.com only allows a few free vin searches per day, I'll check the other years tomorrow.
The same holds true for 1996 with 1,869 of both options.
IF any convertible cars were built with Ram Air and WITHOUT WS6, the temporary hood option production number would be greater than the WS6 production number.
IF a convertible car was ordered with the Ram Air option and not the WS6 option (as appeared to be allowed by the sales brochure) the WS6 option was added in when the production order was processed-even if some of the other WS6 options did not come with the convertible package.
As compnine.com only allows a few free vin searches per day, I'll check the other years tomorrow.
08-09-2012, 10:37 PM
#45
I am uncertain if all 98-02 WS6 cars were automatically "T-top only", but I know that all 98-02 Trans am's were t-top only, so, that would leave me to believe that all 98-02 ws6 trans am's were t-top cars. HOWEVER, people forget about the WS6 formula's. I know that in 96-97, you could get a hardtop ws6 formula. I am uncertain if you could get a hardtop ws6 formula in 98-02.
08-10-2012, 12:09 PM
#46
T-tops became standard equipment on all T/A coupes in '98, and on all Formulas in '02. WS6 and CC1/DE4 (t-tops) were mutually exclusive RPOs, ordering one did not automatically include the other. For the record, there were 39 WS6 Formula coupes w/ HT built in '98, 68 in '99, and 91 in '00. There were also 2 pre-production / prototype TAs built in '98 that had HTs.
CompNine's database shows that in 1997, there were 42 WS6 Formula convertables built IN ADDITION TO 482 WS6 T/A convertables. ALL OF THEM had RPO WS6. While the sales brochure may have called them "Ram Air" and avoided referring to them as "WS6"s because they were denied the 17" wheel / suspension package, it is NOT ACCURATE to refer to them as "non-WS6" cars, regardless if they came w/ the WS6 badge or not.
CompNine's database shows that in 1997, there were 42 WS6 Formula convertables built IN ADDITION TO 482 WS6 T/A convertables. ALL OF THEM had RPO WS6. While the sales brochure may have called them "Ram Air" and avoided referring to them as "WS6"s because they were denied the 17" wheel / suspension package, it is NOT ACCURATE to refer to them as "non-WS6" cars, regardless if they came w/ the WS6 badge or not.
08-10-2012, 02:44 PM
#47
I am uncertain if all 98-02 WS6 cars were automatically "T-top only", but I know that all 98-02 Trans am's were t-top only, so, that would leave me to believe that all 98-02 ws6 trans am's were t-top cars. HOWEVER, people forget about the WS6 formula's. I know that in 96-97, you could get a hardtop ws6 formula. I am uncertain if you could get a hardtop ws6 formula in 98-02.
11-07-2012, 07:22 AM
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I am uncertain if all 98-02 WS6 cars were automatically "T-top only", but I know that all 98-02 Trans am's were t-top only, so, that would leave me to believe that all 98-02 ws6 trans am's were t-top cars. HOWEVER, people forget about the WS6 formula's. I know that in 96-97, you could get a hardtop ws6 formula. I am uncertain if you could get a hardtop ws6 formula in 98-02.
I own a 2000 Formula WS6, and I've done quite alot of research on them. And yes, Formula WS6's did come in a hardtop from 98-00. They're extremely rare; even more so than the Formy WS6's, but yes.**EDIT**
After I posted this, I just noticed (JohnnyBs98WS6Rag) had further answered your question.
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Formula WS6's were only made from 98-00. 01-02 Formulas never came with the WS6 package, just saying I own a 2000 Formula WS6, and I've done quite alot of research on them. And yes, Formula WS6's did come in a hardtop from 98-00. They're extremely rare; even more so than the Formy WS6's, but yes.
**EDIT**
After I posted this, I just noticed (JohnnyBs98WS6Rag) had further answered your question.
I own a 2000 Formula WS6, and I've done quite alot of research on them. And yes, Formula WS6's did come in a hardtop from 98-00. They're extremely rare; even more so than the Formy WS6's, but yes.**EDIT**
After I posted this, I just noticed (JohnnyBs98WS6Rag) had further answered your question.
Close but you forgot the 1996 & 1997 years for the Formula WS6 cars as well.
Unless what I have in my garage is a figment of my imagination!
04-21-2021, 10:26 PM
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My 97 formula ws6 vert I have a 97 formula ws6 ram air White convertible top. It is one of 3, from what I read, after finding the ws6 rpo, which I never knew, since it had 16" wheel, and no badge. Then I ran Vin and found rpo. Thanks to all of you for info.
