Confirmed: Pontiac Announces The 2009 G8 GXP
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The most important part was left out of all that...weight. The one thing GM can't get through their head is weight. You have to be able to put out a car, like the G8 or GXP and keep the weight to a respectable 3500-3800lb. For the sake of acceleration, braking and cornering, put it on a diet. Allow that hp to work better for you...we all know the 100lb is worth a .1 in the 1/4 mile, if it goes over 4000 you leaving performance on the table. Just my opinion but a truly excellent version of this car would be 3650 or so, but I realize with all the amenities it would be hard to get there.
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The most important part was left out of all that...weight. The one thing GM can't get through their head is weight. You have to be able to put out a car, like the G8 or GXP and keep the weight to a respectable 3500-3800lb. For the sake of acceleration, braking and cornering, put it on a diet. Allow that hp to work better for you...we all know the 100lb is worth a .1 in the 1/4 mile, if it goes over 4000 you leaving performance on the table. Just my opinion but a truly excellent version of this car would be 3650 or so, but I realize with all the amenities it would be hard to get there.
Trimming the Fat is a good idea, but it gets to the point where it gets expensive to put in light-weight materials.
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if you think cars are heavy now... just wait untill rollbar point systems become standard.
its been fought for a long time to keep them out of production. thats not gonna last much longer. get rdy to add alot more weight to cars when they introduce them from the factory.
but mabe with them they can reduce some other saftefeatures that wont be needed anymore.
its been fought for a long time to keep them out of production. thats not gonna last much longer. get rdy to add alot more weight to cars when they introduce them from the factory.
but mabe with them they can reduce some other saftefeatures that wont be needed anymore.
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Does anybody else feel that the GXP should have a bit more engine/hp. It's engine is .2 liters bigger, but the GT still has the same heads and intake. I was just hoping for more. I don't know if 41hp and 21lbs already with premium seems worth it. Definately not having any "I wish I could afford a GXP" type of feelings. I know...The GXP has better wheels and seats, firmer susp...but still. I do like the G8 alot, just don't think the GXP is really worth MUCH extra $$$
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Does anybody else feel that the GXP should have a bit more engine/hp. It's engine is .2 liters bigger, but the GT still has the same heads and intake. I was just hoping for more. I don't know if 41hp and 21lbs already with premium seems worth it. Definately not having any "I wish I could afford a GXP" type of feelings. I know...The GXP has better wheels and seats, firmer susp...but still. I do like the G8 alot, just don't think the GXP is really worth MUCH extra $$$
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Personally, I think mod for mod like a tune, intake, exhaust, the GT will quickly close the gap in hp with the GXP. Figuring the GXP is only .2 liters larger and runs on premium already, the GT should be close with with just a tune and running on premium. And they have the same heads and intake (that's the rumer anyway). Maybe the cam is different? I don't think a tune and intake will void the warranty though.
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untill a tune, intake, exhaust for the GXP. something tell me the GXP has more to it than whats known atm. they seem confident it will run 13 flat. 41 hp isnt gonna take a high 13 sec car to a basically 12 second car. so im going to assume some suspension, weight, or Gearing will be different.
and just think if they think it can run 13 flat who knows what it will run when the rest of us get our hands on one. ie grand prix 14.3 rated time wound up running 13.6 with a few of us who owned one.
eitherway i like the looks of the G8. if you dont like the front end like some people are complaining about. dont by a pontiac. if you havent noticed pontiac hasnt changed there front fascia in a long time. no company does that often.
be happy your not driving a g8 that looks like a bigger g6. oh wait that would be a GTO.... lol
ANYTHING beyond factory specs they can claim voids a warranty. read the contract when you buy a new car. now yea you can go to court and fight it say your tranny goes out after you get a new intake. ofcourse the intake didnt cause it. but bet your bottom dollar GM is gonna peg you with warranty violations.
and just think if they think it can run 13 flat who knows what it will run when the rest of us get our hands on one. ie grand prix 14.3 rated time wound up running 13.6 with a few of us who owned one.
eitherway i like the looks of the G8. if you dont like the front end like some people are complaining about. dont by a pontiac. if you havent noticed pontiac hasnt changed there front fascia in a long time. no company does that often.
be happy your not driving a g8 that looks like a bigger g6. oh wait that would be a GTO.... lol
ANYTHING beyond factory specs they can claim voids a warranty. read the contract when you buy a new car. now yea you can go to court and fight it say your tranny goes out after you get a new intake. ofcourse the intake didnt cause it. but bet your bottom dollar GM is gonna peg you with warranty violations.
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Go to the corvette section and look at how the LS3 responds to mods. They open up much easier than the l76 found in the GT. People are seeing 50rwhp from headers, tune, CAI. Very impressive.
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LS3 and other upgrades will be worth the extra $$ IMHO...just struggling with the bad weather we see here from time to time...GXP should be able to compete with some elite competition with mods.
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I like the 3.70 gears that come stock in the manual GXP, compared to the 2.92's or whatever comes in the GT. I know it's cheap to replace the stock gears, if you have a GT, but stock for stock... it will make a huge difference having 3.70's... Plus if you already have 3.70's there is not much point in upgrading your gears to 3.73's... the next logical step would be 4.10's, and I doubt that would even make a huge difference.... But I did notice the 3.27's that come in the auto GXP... from 3.70 to 3.27 is a nice dropoff... don't know why anyone would buy an auto if they can buy a manual for the same price?