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The braking comment I made was due to the fact that the stock OEM brakes are notorious for warping. And yes, mine are warped like crazy. Is it because I've ran my car at the track a few times? I'm sure it didn't help. But I know I have friends that take their cars to the track and don't have near my problems.
And my suspension comment. Everyone knows that at about 20-30k miles, the stock suspension starts to take a dump. My car now looks like it's lowered in the rear when it's not. It's the stock rear springs that are sagging. My radius rod bushings are shot too and it's causing my struts to rubs my tires.
I'm not totally ******* the GTO. There are many more positives about the car than these 2 negatives. Hopefully by the end of this year I'll be fully pedderized and dba'd. Then I won't have anything to bitch about. LOL
And my suspension comment. Everyone knows that at about 20-30k miles, the stock suspension starts to take a dump. My car now looks like it's lowered in the rear when it's not. It's the stock rear springs that are sagging. My radius rod bushings are shot too and it's causing my struts to rubs my tires.
I'm not totally ******* the GTO. There are many more positives about the car than these 2 negatives. Hopefully by the end of this year I'll be fully pedderized and dba'd. Then I won't have anything to bitch about. LOL
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Whats with all this shitty brakes and suspension? I am coming from a '05 Evo (arguably one of the best handling 4drs made) and I find my GTO handles well and rides great. I was really surprised how nicely weighted the steering is and how well the car rides yet handles well too.
Brakes seem about what I'd expect from the General but it IS a 3800lb car after all! Its going to be hard on the brakes period. I do find they stop the car well but I have never punished them like the Brembo's on my Evo when I took it around the Nurburgring.
As always YMMV.
Brakes seem about what I'd expect from the General but it IS a 3800lb car after all! Its going to be hard on the brakes period. I do find they stop the car well but I have never punished them like the Brembo's on my Evo when I took it around the Nurburgring.
As always YMMV.
My car is an 04, warped rotors are common, but easy fix for 04's since rotors are pretty cheap.
As far as suspension, I've had no issues at all with bushings failing or springs sagging. This is in a full weight auto too.
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I heard different things about how/why the stock suspension *may* fail.. is there a way to tell before you buy one? Some sign that shows they may fail on you?
I am possibly in the market for a GTO, is why I ask lol
I am possibly in the market for a GTO, is why I ask lol
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I sold my T/A and bought an 06 GTO M6. I have received more compliments on my GTO in 6 months of ownership than I did with 4 years of owning my T/A. The difference between the two is night and day favoring the GTO in every aspect.
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Whats with all this shitty brakes and suspension? I am coming from a '05 Evo (arguably one of the best handling 4drs made) and I find my GTO handles well and rides great. I was really surprised how nicely weighted the steering is and how well the car rides yet handles well too.
Brakes seem about what I'd expect from the General but it IS a 3800lb car after all! Its going to be hard on the brakes period. I do find they stop the car well but I have never punished them like the Brembo's on my Evo when I took it around the Nurburgring.
As always YMMV.
Brakes seem about what I'd expect from the General but it IS a 3800lb car after all! Its going to be hard on the brakes period. I do find they stop the car well but I have never punished them like the Brembo's on my Evo when I took it around the Nurburgring.
As always YMMV.
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The braking comment I made was due to the fact that the stock OEM brakes are notorious for warping. And yes, mine are warped like crazy. Is it because I've ran my car at the track a few times? I'm sure it didn't help. But I know I have friends that take their cars to the track and don't have near my problems.
And my suspension comment. Everyone knows that at about 20-30k miles, the stock suspension starts to take a dump. My car now looks like it's lowered in the rear when it's not. It's the stock rear springs that are sagging. My radius rod bushings are shot too and it's causing my struts to rubs my tires.
I'm not totally ******* the GTO. There are many more positives about the car than these 2 negatives. Hopefully by the end of this year I'll be fully pedderized and dba'd. Then I won't have anything to bitch about. LOL
And my suspension comment. Everyone knows that at about 20-30k miles, the stock suspension starts to take a dump. My car now looks like it's lowered in the rear when it's not. It's the stock rear springs that are sagging. My radius rod bushings are shot too and it's causing my struts to rubs my tires.
I'm not totally ******* the GTO. There are many more positives about the car than these 2 negatives. Hopefully by the end of this year I'll be fully pedderized and dba'd. Then I won't have anything to bitch about. LOL
Got mine with only 2000 miles on it. I've done countless 140+mph stops and my brakes are fine. I think it's how you're stopping. If you hold the brakes firmly for any constant length of time from tripple digits it will warp rotors on any car. You have to pulsate them. Hold for a couple seconds firmly and then release, repeat. That allows the gases to escape.
Most importantly I don't drive through water after a hard stop, do hard stops in the rain, or wash my car after driving the car.
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I'll chime in about my love for my 04 LS1. I don't have a single complaint about my baby except that the rotors warped and my pass. side spring is 1/2" lower than the other.
But I have already accumulated my DBA 4000 rotors + Hawk ceramic pads for all around.
Shy of new rear springs, a pedders suspension upgrade will follow.
Regrets = Getting an A4 instead of a M6 (wifey was considered) but my handheld Predator took care of the torque mgnt. and unleashed some more of the LS1's power.
But I have already accumulated my DBA 4000 rotors + Hawk ceramic pads for all around.
Shy of new rear springs, a pedders suspension upgrade will follow.
Regrets = Getting an A4 instead of a M6 (wifey was considered) but my handheld Predator took care of the torque mgnt. and unleashed some more of the LS1's power.
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Owning both a Z28 and a GTO... it is a hard decision. I love my Z... even though it is just an LT1; I love the seat-of-your-pants feeling that car gives me. My GTO is fun, it feels more luxurious, I like them for different reasons.
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I have both an lt1 formy and an 06 GTO. i get depressed sometimes when i think about how i neglect my formy.
its two completely different cars. the Formula has a bunch of aftermarket suspension parts on it, so it corners well, but it has a somewhat rough ride. the gto is just all out powerful, plus it doesn't do too bad in the corners either. plus its so plush i could live in it.
its two completely different cars. the Formula has a bunch of aftermarket suspension parts on it, so it corners well, but it has a somewhat rough ride. the gto is just all out powerful, plus it doesn't do too bad in the corners either. plus its so plush i could live in it.
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Ive owned 6 F-Bodies (currently an 01 SS M6) and will be picking up an 05 QuickSilver M6 Goat tomorrow. Anything thats LSX powered from the General deserves some love!!
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I'll chime in about my love for my 04 LS1. I don't have a single complaint about my baby except that the rotors warped and my pass. side spring is 1/2" lower than the other.
But I have already accumulated my DBA 4000 rotors + Hawk ceramic pads for all around.
Shy of new rear springs, a pedders suspension upgrade will follow.
Regrets = Getting an A4 instead of a M6 (wifey was considered) but my handheld Predator took care of the torque mgnt. and unleashed some more of the LS1's power.
But I have already accumulated my DBA 4000 rotors + Hawk ceramic pads for all around.
Shy of new rear springs, a pedders suspension upgrade will follow.
Regrets = Getting an A4 instead of a M6 (wifey was considered) but my handheld Predator took care of the torque mgnt. and unleashed some more of the LS1's power.