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Old 10-17-2011, 06:51 PM
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lol gotta love high school kids race him for his lunch money, theres no way that has 450hp
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and my gto is a slower than a horse and buggy compared to my camaro
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Goats are heavy as hell. I can see them with bolt on's and a good tune making 450 to the crank all day
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Originally Posted by SUNSET Z28
and my gto is a slower than a horse and buggy compared to my camaro
lol so is mine but i still like it.
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo904
bro the 2005 GTO's come stock with a 6.0 liter with 400hp. the 04's had a 5.7 and 350hp look it up!

lol i love when kids dont know dick about cars and still talk ****
Ummmmm..... He is correct.

95% of the people (especially not in the car world) talk crack Hp.. And he is correct in his statement.
The other 5% (especially people in the car world) talk Rwhp..

Just because he is talking crank and you are talking Rw (dyno) doesn't make him wrong and you right.. In that aspect, why are you not wrong and he is right?

Maybe you should inform him of this.. Maybe he could learn something.

Most people that don't know about cars, talk **** like this.. The ones that are informed usually don't because they know that 600Rwhp in todays world, isn't too much to brag about.. Even on the street. There is ALWAYS someone to put you in your place.... And it is usually someone with less cubes/smaller power adder/more weight/etc..
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I don't know where you live but 600hp to the tire is pretty damn stout. Especially for a street ride.
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It most definitely is stout.. But not uncommon anymore for a street car.

If you have a group of cars hanging out, say 20 people... And 4 are around the 550-650rw are, and 2 in the 700+ club... The rest being from 300-45rw... It's safe to say you shouldn't be too cocky now a days with 500rwhp, plenty of other people to set you in your place.

Isn't to say you wouod bitch slap 95% of the cars you run into.
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Originally Posted by impulsegoat
I don't know where you live but 600hp to the tire is pretty damn stout. Especially for a street ride.
Agreed. Us Ohio folk must not get out often ha ha. We're missing out obviously.
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No matter what having a ride thats putting down that kind of power is pretty rare imo there arent alot of 600rwhp street cars running around.

Now if you are big on ls1tech and you go into the street racing kill section, ya it sort of makes a car like that seem a bit more common.. in reality your lucky to see any at all.
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Originally Posted by impulsegoat
I don't know where you live but 600hp to the tire is pretty damn stout. Especially for a street ride.
yea.. I would feel pretty happy/confident with 600rwhp..

heck I'd be happy with 400.. but it aint happening.

it's true though with direct injection, factory boost, etc. that stock power numbers are looking better than ever on the production side. We have a lot of competition out of the box these days from the 30 something with more money than time that wants to buy himself a status symbol.

for the majority of drivers however.. having 300-400whp doesn't matter that much to them AND they're pulling 4-5-6000 pounds around with it anyway.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
lol so is mine but i still like it.
Im confused? Your Camaro runs low 12's but your GTO is like a horse and buggy when compared to it?

Sounds like your trying to feel superior......
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Originally Posted by massillongoat
there fat...haha
Where fat? Ah there fat!. . . haha. Maybe you mean they are fat? Like they're?

They're about 300# more quietness and riding comfort than a Camaro.
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Ive tried telling the kid that he is half way right but he just thinks since he has a GTO he can race an beat anything!!! So once i get my full tune im gonna put him in his place.
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo904
Ive tried telling the kid that he is half way right but he just thinks since he has a GTO he can race an beat anything!!! So once i get my full tune im gonna put him in his place.
hey man.. at least he's not grabbing a stock honda civic hatchbakc, putting a 4" tip on the back and painting his wheels green and making the same claim.

He might not be the fastest car on the road, but he does have SOME right to brag.

seems a lot of "kids" these days aren't into american muscle anymore.

He sees a few taillights in his "I can beat anything" races and maybe he'll come around and learn a few things he can carry with him in the future.

that's what hotrodding is about right? (maybe I should listen to my own words.. )
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I have advice, instead of arguing with him, gouge ur finger into his eye, gets em every time.
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Originally Posted by BM6GTO
Im confused? Your Camaro runs low 12's but your GTO is like a horse and buggy when compared to it?

Sounds like your trying to feel superior......
thats old info. no superiority complex here.

trust me my SS will **** all over my GTO without breaking a sweat.
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Originally Posted by RedfoxGTO
I have advice, instead of arguing with him, gouge ur finger into his eye, gets em every time.

psycho woman arent you?
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Originally Posted by impulsegoat
No matter what having a ride thats putting down that kind of power is pretty rare imo there arent alot of 600rwhp street cars running around.

Now if you are big on ls1tech and you go into the street racing kill section, ya it sort of makes a car like that seem a bit more common.. in reality your lucky to see any at all.
These are all guys I hang out with.... On a very regular basis.

One has a C5z with a vortec on it.. Makes just north of 550Rwhp.
One is installing H/C on his C6z.. He is shooting for 615Rwhp or so.
One has a Whipple Cobra.. 630Rwhp.
One *had a turbo trans am, 550Rwhp, and has a H/C C5z, 455Rwhp.

I could go on... Those are 4 of my closest buddies (which we all hang out together so if you were in our town there is a GOOD chance on a friday or satuday night you will run into one of us). I know of many more in my SMALL town... Now, if we move this to Chattanooga/Murfreesboro areas (within 45 minutes on me).. There are PLENTY of 600Rwhp cars running around and very common to have 3-5 750Rwhp-ish cars running around on a Friday-Saturday night. And yes, all these guys meet up and branch out through the night... So running into one in town wouldn't be far fetched by ANY means.


I'm not trying to pass it off like that is a normal street car... But for street cars 600Rwhp is in the mid-high of the food chain, 700+ is top, 500 is mid, 400 is bottom... Anything under that and there are bone stock sedans that can walk you for under 50K$.
You got to think... A decent cam only ls1 with a 175 hit will get you VERY close to 600Rwhp. That is not an unheard of setup or expensive by any means.
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
thats old info. no superiority complex here.

trust me my SS will **** all over my GTO without breaking a sweat.
Why didnt you mod the ls2 platform? Wouldnt that make more sense? I know the SS is lighter but the GTO is also a nicer ride and overall a nicer car.
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LOL well my friend you are obviously on a much higher scale in life than the majority of us on this site.

I guess it depends on where you live whether a 600rwhp car is considered "not uncommon". Most of the setups that you mentioned are at least $30,000+ between the price of the car and mods ect. But it sounds like you would consider that cheap or inexpensive. Just because you and your friends can walk lambo's and vipers doesn't mean that kind of car is more common.


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