First Test LS2 GTO MagnaCharged
06-14-2005, 11:44 PM
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I am pretty sure they are going to come in where the current GTO systems are:
5995.00 for the silver
6995.00 for the polished
BTW, smoke a C6 today....hehehe
5995.00 for the silver
6995.00 for the polished
BTW, smoke a C6 today....hehehe
06-15-2005, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dbluegoat
only way those are worth it is if they sold them for $4500 or less.......
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Funny, I made 417/448 blower only on a 5.3...........
06-15-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CSiJason
Any hood clearance problems like 04's? (IE: Trimming required or no on 05's?)
no problems on the prototype. Should not be a problem on production.
06-15-2005, 03:33 PM
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Ah well you guys wanted me to test one out right? 
Any word on how these will be as far as CARB certification? I might end up moving to California later this year and my mods will need to be CARB friendly.
Any word on how these will be as far as CARB certification? I might end up moving to California later this year and my mods will need to be CARB friendly.
06-15-2005, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CSiJason
Ah well you guys wanted me to test one out right? Any word on how these will be as far as CARB certification? I might end up moving to California later this year and my mods will need to be CARB friendly.
Any word on how these will be as far as CARB certification? I might end up moving to California later this year and my mods will need to be CARB friendly.As all of our systems it will be Tested and given an E.O.# for 50 states.
Moving here, are you crazy?
06-15-2005, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BlownChevy
knew you would
Originally Posted by BlownChevy
Funny, I made 417/448 blower only on a 5.3...........
$7k of it. Last edited by Dbluegoat; 06-15-2005 at 06:53 PM.
06-15-2005, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dbluegoat
only way those are worth it is if they sold them for $4500 or less.......
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06-15-2005, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
They are entirely worth it if you want to remain CARB legal and keep your factory warranty.
I have one........and when you go to a dyno day and it only makes 378rwhp and another GTO comes up and dynos with a vortech supercharger and makes 440rwhp and spent LESS than I did well you tell me how much its worth.
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06-15-2005, 11:01 PM
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Tuning man.... tuning. Becides, centrifugal superchargers are ALL about big peak numbers because they make maximum boost near redline which is where you make peak power anyhow. Power under the curve is what makes a car more driveable and accelerate better. This is what a positive displacement blower has in spades.
Here is a dyno of my old Honda B16 1.6L on 15psi with a Vortech. Notice it made peak horsepower AND torque at nearly the same point just short of the fuel cutoff. (Boost was later raised to 18psi and the redline to 9000rpm however I never re-dyno'd it after those changes.) The car was god damn fast from 6500rpm on up but it wasnt much quicker than stock below that point. I had to rev the thing so hard to get the most of it that eventualy the oil pump failed and it damaged the engine. (The whole thing was fully built which made it that much more of a headache when that happened. Needless to say, I stripped it, sold it and bought the GTO and have been happy with torque ever since!)
Here is a dyno of my old Honda B16 1.6L on 15psi with a Vortech. Notice it made peak horsepower AND torque at nearly the same point just short of the fuel cutoff. (Boost was later raised to 18psi and the redline to 9000rpm however I never re-dyno'd it after those changes.) The car was god damn fast from 6500rpm on up but it wasnt much quicker than stock below that point. I had to rev the thing so hard to get the most of it that eventualy the oil pump failed and it damaged the engine. (The whole thing was fully built which made it that much more of a headache when that happened. Needless to say, I stripped it, sold it and bought the GTO and have been happy with torque ever since!)
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06-15-2005, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dbluegoat
you think if you blow your motor the dealer is gonna warranty it with a magnacharger on it?
I have one........and when you go to a dyno day and it only makes 378rwhp and another GTO comes up and dynos with a vortech supercharger and makes 440rwhp and spent LESS than I did well you tell me how much its worth.
I have one........and when you go to a dyno day and it only makes 378rwhp and another GTO comes up and dynos with a vortech supercharger and makes 440rwhp and spent LESS than I did well you tell me how much its worth.
That was a tuning issue, it has been fixed. Sorry you have had a bad experiance, however we have fixed the problem and plenty of people are getting the results they wanted now. If there is any way we can earn your business again, please let me know. I will do my best to make your experiance a good one.
As for warrnaty, there are a LARGE number of dealers using our superchargers as dealer upgrades. That cant be said for most of the others.
06-16-2005, 12:04 AM
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My goat was tuned by Jeremy Formato a very well known LS1 tuner here in florida......back in april he tuned it with longtube headers and the maggie and I made 396rwhp and torque......he could never get it any higher. My Iat's are always 120 or above. So i was somewhat satisfied with that.....I go to his shop this past weekend and have it dyno'd again, he looks at the tune nothing has changed. My results 378rwhp......So I have lost 20rwhp for some unknown reason(most likely just heat and humidity). The stock tune from magnacharger got me a glorius 360rwhp.......Like I said this all stings a little when I spent $7k installed. Guys with procharger, vortech etc.......make more power for less money.....it just burns. I love the low end instant power but come on.......its just not worth all that money. If I had it to do over again, I would not choose magnacharger. Now I am stuck trying to milk more power out of it or keep it cool to make that extra power. The alternative is to try and sell it and lose about $3k off the top. Its great that it has been fixed but that does not help the early birds like me. The kit for the vettes is obviously better, the intercooler design for the GTO was just too small.
06-16-2005, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dbluegoat
My goat was tuned by Jeremy Formato a very well known LS1 tuner here in florida......back in april he tuned it with longtube headers and the maggie and I made 396rwhp and torque......he could never get it any higher. My Iat's are always 120 or above. So i was somewhat satisfied with that.....I go to his shop this past weekend and have it dyno'd again, he looks at the tune nothing has changed. My results 378rwhp......So I have lost 20rwhp for some unknown reason. The stock tune from magnacharger got me a glorius 360rwhp.......Like I said this all stings a little when I spent $7k installed. Guys with procharger, vortech etc.......make more power for less money.....it just burns. I love the low end instant power but come on.......its just not worth all that money. If I had it to do over again, I would not choose magnacharger. Now I am stuck trying to milk more power out of it or keep it cool to make that extra power. The alternative is to try and sell it and lose about $3k off the top.
BTW, I am serious about the offer on the return.
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06-16-2005, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BlownChevy
Well, I am sorry you have recieved less than stellar results. Feel free to contact me and I will be more than happy to work something out with you on a return. I would however appreciate it if you keep the negative comments to a minimum in my thread......There are thousands of happy Magnuson owners out there, we cant please them all.
BTW, I am serious about the offer on the return.
Brian
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BTW, I am serious about the offer on the return.
Brian
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