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Old 06-26-2021, 01:09 PM
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i am reading folks sending in their steering boxes to get them re-worked to speed up steering . why doesn't anyone install a steering quickner to the steering shaft ?
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I've never heard of anyone wanting this, I'm curious what application are you looking at this for?
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Most people who drift either modify the steering knuckles or replace them with something that gives more angle, which in turn gives faster response. It seems like a simpler approach to the same problem, since it doesn't add any additional moving parts.

I've considered doing something like that to my C5 just because there's one corner at my home track that's tight enough that my arms often touch unless I shuffle. But it's very low on the priority list.
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if you double the ratio of your steering, you double the effort to turn the wheel.

I've driven cars (1/4 midgets's Dwarf's, Sprints) with quickeners installed.
With shortened arms on the uprights,,
Same result..

never tried it with a rack and pinion with electric power assist, that might work..
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i am wondering the same thing . i am building a 95 camaro for auto crossing and want to speed up the steering .

pdxmotorhead i assume you raced at applerose ??
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Maybe they're like me and didn't realize is was a thing? But for road racing, the factory quick rack seems sufficient.
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On my race car rack and pinion steering boxes it is only a half a turn to full lock.
Granted full lock on the race car may be half the turning radius of a street car with a stock steering box.
A stock steering box makes for interesting in car videos as with a slow steering box you can watch the driver make large saves and steering corrections.


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It seems to me that a reworked box would be a cleaner installation. Let’s parts and pieces.
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Originally Posted by Passmenow
On my race car rack and pinion steering boxes it is only a half a turn to full lock.
Granted full lock on the race car may be half the turning radius of a street car with a stock steering box.
A stock steering box makes for interesting in car videos as with a slow steering box you can watch the driver make large saves and steering corrections.
Your race cars are different animals for sure. Tube frame, I assume manual brakes and dog boxes. Puts my bucket of bolts to shame. A smaller steering wheel helps a lot too, but I do have a good save moment on my last race. Put in in a little too deep trying to get around the outside and found myself in the turds. Plenty of wheel movement on that one, amazing I refound center so quickly.
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Originally Posted by bubbaGee
i am wondering the same thing . i am building a 95 camaro for auto crossing and want to speed up the steering .

pdxmotorhead i assume you raced at applerose ??
I don't know if the rack ratios are different between LT1 / LS1 cars. The easiest way to make your steering faster is get a smaller steering wheel. With a smaller wheel I do not feel my steering is too slow and mine isn't that small either, if I recall 350mm. I pretty much just use my car for AutoX right now.
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Originally Posted by 00PewterSS
I don't know if the rack ratios are different between LT1 / LS1 cars. The easiest way to make your steering faster is get a smaller steering wheel. With a smaller wheel I do not feel my steering is too slow and mine isn't that small either, if I recall 350mm. I pretty much just use my car for AutoX right now.
Far as I can tell, the quick rack is hit and miss with the LT/V6 style racks. With an LS1 car it's guaranteed as it is its own style of rack.
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Originally Posted by mikedamageinc
I've never heard of anyone wanting this, I'm curious what application are you looking at this for?
I am building a autocross car. lots of turns sometimes quick turns.
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Originally Posted by Supercharged111
Your race cars are different animals for sure. Tube frame, I assume manual brakes and dog boxes. Puts my bucket of bolts to shame. A smaller steering wheel helps a lot too, but I do have a good save moment on my last race. Put in in a little too deep trying to get around the outside and found myself in the turds. Plenty of wheel movement on that one, amazing I refound center so quickly.
They really have nothing at all to do with the cars here other than some roughly replica skin. I'm honestly not even sure why they are posted here.

I see no reason for a quicker steering ratio. If your courses are that tight I would find a different club to run with, or just run actual tracks instead.
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Originally Posted by landstuhltaylor
They really have nothing at all to do with the cars here other than some roughly replica skin. I'm honestly not even sure why they are posted here.
Big engine, big tires, big deal.

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