Lets Talk Brakes....
Teching In
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Princeton,Tx
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... I am also working on some new front brake kits for more of the budget minded.One is for a third gen. C-5 rotors, Wilwood superlite 6 calipers and an steel hub. The other is a fourth gen. c-5 rotor,Wilwood superlite 6 and dynalite II billet caliper. I have done a few installs with the C-5 rotor/C-5 caliper but for a few more dollars I think its worth to spend a few extra dollars for a true 4 or 6 piston caliper. Any ideas???
Third gen. http://www.applink.net/~thartman/c5_rotor.htm
....John
Third gen. http://www.applink.net/~thartman/c5_rotor.htm
....John
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... Car: 94 camaro
Brakes: Custom 13"(just like the Baer track kit)
Pads:Hawk blue
Rotors: 2 piece Baer
Lines: Earls SS
Fluid: motul 600
ABS: none
These brakes work great around town, and autoXing. they are OK for road racing, but they don't quite cut it. I would like some ALcons, but it looks like Wilwood 6 piston setup may be the best bang for the buck in brakes right now..
One big PLUS with my brakes is they fit under my 16" autoX rims.. no way will an alcon/wilwood 4/6 piston caliper fit under 16" rims!
Brakes: Custom 13"(just like the Baer track kit)
Pads:Hawk blue
Rotors: 2 piece Baer
Lines: Earls SS
Fluid: motul 600
ABS: none
These brakes work great around town, and autoXing. they are OK for road racing, but they don't quite cut it. I would like some ALcons, but it looks like Wilwood 6 piston setup may be the best bang for the buck in brakes right now..
One big PLUS with my brakes is they fit under my 16" autoX rims.. no way will an alcon/wilwood 4/6 piston caliper fit under 16" rims!
TECH Resident
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 937
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From: Mehlingen, Germany
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... Car: 98 camaro ss
Brakes: Porsche GT2/GT3 brake systems adapted by MOVIT
Pads: Porsche Motorsport Yellows by Pagid
Rotors: Non floating curved vane cross drilled 330X34mm front 322X28mm rear
Lines: Fischer Hydraulik
Fluid: ATE SUPER BLUE
ABS: Factory
Parkbrake: Made by Lamborghini adapted by Movit
Comments
Pricey but it will outbrake any stock application coming out of Stuttgart except fot the new ceramics
[ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: roy ]</p>
Brakes: Porsche GT2/GT3 brake systems adapted by MOVIT
Pads: Porsche Motorsport Yellows by Pagid
Rotors: Non floating curved vane cross drilled 330X34mm front 322X28mm rear
Lines: Fischer Hydraulik
Fluid: ATE SUPER BLUE
ABS: Factory
Parkbrake: Made by Lamborghini adapted by Movit
Comments
Pricey but it will outbrake any stock application coming out of Stuttgart except fot the new ceramics
[ December 06, 2001: Message edited by: roy ]</p>
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... Any update on the Wilwood system?.........specifically interested in knowing how it is working for others and if we can use stock 17" wheels (SS 10 spoke and ZR1 style).............Thanks, GM
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... We are currently in the process of seeing what wheels will fit. I know that an Enkei Win and a Forgeline Will fit. Any 18" rim will have no trouble. As far as the SS/WS6 rims, Ill get back to you on that.
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... [quote]Originally posted by G2 LS1:
<strong>We are currently in the process of seeing what wheels will fit. I know that an Enkei Win and a Forgeline Will fit. Any 18" rim will have no trouble. As far as the SS/WS6 rims, Ill get back to you on that.</strong><hr></blockquote>Just bringing this one to the top.......still looking for info on this set up.......Thanks, Gary
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<strong>We are currently in the process of seeing what wheels will fit. I know that an Enkei Win and a Forgeline Will fit. Any 18" rim will have no trouble. As far as the SS/WS6 rims, Ill get back to you on that.</strong><hr></blockquote>Just bringing this one to the top.......still looking for info on this set up.......Thanks, Gary
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Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... The cracked rotor from page 1 is mine. More of them here.
[quote]Originally posted by G2 LS1:
<strong>Good pedal feel, always there.....</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have seen your brakes go away just days before this thread was started <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> For the record I beleive it was fluid boil, which a bleed with good fluid fixed.
[quote]Originally posted by JordonMusser:
<strong>Brakes: Custom 13"
(One big PLUS with my brakes is they fit under my 16" autoX rims.. no way will an alcon/wilwood 4/6 piston caliper fit under 16" rims!</strong><hr></blockquote>
You have my interest... Details please.
[ January 06, 2002: Message edited by: 98_1LE ]</p>
[quote]Originally posted by G2 LS1:
<strong>Good pedal feel, always there.....</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have seen your brakes go away just days before this thread was started <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> For the record I beleive it was fluid boil, which a bleed with good fluid fixed.
[quote]Originally posted by JordonMusser:
<strong>Brakes: Custom 13"
(One big PLUS with my brakes is they fit under my 16" autoX rims.. no way will an alcon/wilwood 4/6 piston caliper fit under 16" rims!</strong><hr></blockquote>
You have my interest... Details please.
[ January 06, 2002: Message edited by: 98_1LE ]</p>
On The Tree
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 105
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From: Germantown, MD
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... Just for the input, I have a base 99 SS with an A4. A daily driver, touring and track car.
Since I still like to drive the car for the purpose it was designed, spirited driving, I've run 2.5 seasons at open track days here in the Mid-Atlantic area. Summit Point & V.I.R.
I've always beded & seasoned new pads & rotors
The first two sessions where on the stock pads and rotors. Felt the fade at the end of the 3000' straight at Summit and adjusted my driving technique accordingly.
Starting 3/2000 I visited VIR and fell in love with the track. I had already upgraded to the GMPP front rotors and DuraStops on all four corners. Great improvement. Driving technique also improved. Street performance also noticed, wet & dry. The rotors lasted all season. (about 6 track sessions)
The 2001 season I started using Hoosier 'R' compound tires with Hawk 'black' pads, the same rotors from last season and Earl's SS braided brake lines. These pads were used at the track only, with Durastops going back in for street use.
The SS saw it's last 'official' track day Nov,2001. With the SS showing 48K miles on the odo, I'm setting up an '87 T/A to pick up the track duties as well as the drive to work and back. I'll probably look for a 1LE setup for the front of the T/A, as it already has the PBR setup in the rear, with the 12" rotors.
Here's our HOSS.
[ January 14, 2002: Message edited by: 99HOSS ]</p>
Since I still like to drive the car for the purpose it was designed, spirited driving, I've run 2.5 seasons at open track days here in the Mid-Atlantic area. Summit Point & V.I.R.
I've always beded & seasoned new pads & rotors
The first two sessions where on the stock pads and rotors. Felt the fade at the end of the 3000' straight at Summit and adjusted my driving technique accordingly.
Starting 3/2000 I visited VIR and fell in love with the track. I had already upgraded to the GMPP front rotors and DuraStops on all four corners. Great improvement. Driving technique also improved. Street performance also noticed, wet & dry. The rotors lasted all season. (about 6 track sessions)
The 2001 season I started using Hoosier 'R' compound tires with Hawk 'black' pads, the same rotors from last season and Earl's SS braided brake lines. These pads were used at the track only, with Durastops going back in for street use.
The SS saw it's last 'official' track day Nov,2001. With the SS showing 48K miles on the odo, I'm setting up an '87 T/A to pick up the track duties as well as the drive to work and back. I'll probably look for a 1LE setup for the front of the T/A, as it already has the PBR setup in the rear, with the 12" rotors.
Here's our HOSS.
[ January 14, 2002: Message edited by: 99HOSS ]</p>
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... If you want an excellent replacement rotor to work with our factory calipers, which are pretty good PBR calipers anyway, look at what Baer has available. A nice piece !! With some good pads these should work great. Maybe not a "pure" race set up but no doubt a huge improvement over stock... FYI...I've had my Baer GTP road race (crossdrilled, slotted and zinced) 13.15" rotor set up with the pressure treated PBR (Vette) calipers for quite a while now and couldn't be happier...A little expensive but real nice pieces...
On The Tree
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Germantown, MD
Re: Lets Talk Brakes.... ... either way I go, it'll cost me about 1200 bux to upgrade the front of the T/A to a dual piston caliper and a 12" rotor setup. After the Earl's SS braided lines, I'll probably use the Hawk's on the track and ??? on the street, maybe the DuraStops.