What's your Heel/Toe technique?
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What's your Heel/Toe technique? And which pedals do you use?
I bought one of those pedals the guy had made on LS1.com 2 years ago. It just screws onto the stock unit. It's about 3/8" thick a couple of inches taller and a couple of inches wider ...
I personally ride with the brake on the ball of my foot and then blip the throttle with the side of my foot.
I noticed this weekend, sometimes when I would experience "long pedal" I would actually be mashing the gas as well whne trying to stop
I bought one of those pedals the guy had made on LS1.com 2 years ago. It just screws onto the stock unit. It's about 3/8" thick a couple of inches taller and a couple of inches wider ...
I personally ride with the brake on the ball of my foot and then blip the throttle with the side of my foot.
I noticed this weekend, sometimes when I would experience "long pedal" I would actually be mashing the gas as well whne trying to stop
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? I push on the brake with the ball of my foot also and hit the gas with the outer edge also. And yep, I've noticed the revving while coming to a stop tendency - normally after I get funny looks from everyone.
When you are in the habbit of driving like that (I do it all the time just because I am trying to preserve my synchro's - and just for something to do <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> ) it's really strange to try and drive barefoot (for me anyway!).
Chris
When you are in the habbit of driving like that (I do it all the time just because I am trying to preserve my synchro's - and just for something to do <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> ) it's really strange to try and drive barefoot (for me anyway!).
Chris
Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? I suck at this part of driving. In the words of Darrel Waltrip on road racing, "It looks like I am stomping out a grass fire." <img src="images/icons/blush.gif" border="0">
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? You talking about these pedals? How's the quality of the machine work on yours? I'm not very impressed with mine. Anyways, I put the middle of my foot on the middle of the brake pedal, and roll to the side to hit the gas pedal. And yes if I'm on the brakes hard I tend to hit the pedal.
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? No, I'm talking about a cat named Eric something that starts with an "L". He called them the EL Pedal.
They were made from plastic and have LS1 embossed in the face. The color matches the other pedals, so it doesn't stand out.
From the looks of it, the pedal I have is a little wider than yours, but not quite as tall.
They were made from plastic and have LS1 embossed in the face. The color matches the other pedals, so it doesn't stand out.
From the looks of it, the pedal I have is a little wider than yours, but not quite as tall.
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? Same thing - ball of the foot, hit the gas pedal with the side of the foot. Stock pedals. Pedestrians look at me funny.
Just like to add that it is substantially more difficult when wearing cowboy boots.
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Just like to add that it is substantially more difficult when wearing cowboy boots.
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? I did the Bragg-Smith school in APril and they added a piece of alum. over the gas pedal that made it about 1 1/2 times as wide....helped allot.
My 1994 Z has the Baer Pro Race 13 1/2" dia., Alcon 4 piston calipers and with SS brake lines the brake pedal is so stout it's along way down to the gas pedal.
I need to widen and thicken it somewhat to make it more comfortable to H/T...I cna do it OK, but I have to use the arch of my foot on the brake and roll the side of my foot to the go pedal.
Also, Lou, I'm seriously considering your springs, as my H&R's have sagged to the point of the tight coils (progressive rate) are collapsed under simple car weight....rides like a go-cart....as you can see in my sig, I have Koni DA's set on full soft most of the time, but I still feel like I'm bouncing off the bump stops.
I'm building a hot 383 this winter to make her go as well as stop...LOL!
Good to be amongst guys like you and Dave!
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My 1994 Z has the Baer Pro Race 13 1/2" dia., Alcon 4 piston calipers and with SS brake lines the brake pedal is so stout it's along way down to the gas pedal.
I need to widen and thicken it somewhat to make it more comfortable to H/T...I cna do it OK, but I have to use the arch of my foot on the brake and roll the side of my foot to the go pedal.
Also, Lou, I'm seriously considering your springs, as my H&R's have sagged to the point of the tight coils (progressive rate) are collapsed under simple car weight....rides like a go-cart....as you can see in my sig, I have Koni DA's set on full soft most of the time, but I still feel like I'm bouncing off the bump stops.
I'm building a hot 383 this winter to make her go as well as stop...LOL!
Good to be amongst guys like you and Dave!
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? I use the same method, and I agree - practicing when every day driving (even in my Volvo) has helped me improve on the road courses.
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? When I first got the car (Sept. 10th ... no trouble remembering the date), I couldn't drive it because I drove a Taurus SHO for years and its pedals are set up nice for heel 'n toe. I found the factory f-body pedal placement didn't work at all for me.
So I'm using Lou's G2 pedal covers, and I raised the throttle 3/4". Now I'm with all you guys: ball of foot on brake, side of shoe on throttle. When making hard stops, I roll my right knee to the left to stay out of the throttle.
John Parsons
So I'm using Lou's G2 pedal covers, and I raised the throttle 3/4". Now I'm with all you guys: ball of foot on brake, side of shoe on throttle. When making hard stops, I roll my right knee to the left to stay out of the throttle.
John Parsons
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Re: What's your Heel/Toe technique? [quote]Originally posted by parsonsj:
<strong>When I first got the car (Sept. 10th ... no trouble remembering the date), I couldn't drive it because I drove a Taurus SHO for years and its pedals are set up nice for heel 'n toe. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Agreed! I also came out of a Taurus SHO and the pedal placement in that car was perfect for heel and toeing! It took a bit of practice on the SS to get it down right for the street, and then even more practice before I was able to do it consistently on a road course without messing up. The factory pedal placement is not great, but is workable if you rest the left side of the ball of your foot on the right side of the brake pedal (this shortens the distance over to the gas pedal). My problem was not being able to feel where my foot was on the brake pedal because I wasn't wearing the right shoe. Believe it or not, the shoe that works for me is the Clarke's (of England) boat shoe!! The sole is a perfect thickness and allows great feel!
BTW, the guy who was making the gas pedal extender is Eric Liebscher. He is not making them anymore as he has lost access to the CNC machine he was using. A godd friend of mine got one of the last ones, and it is a GREAT mod. I wish that somebody would come up with an equivalent piece.
Best regardSS,
Elie
<strong>When I first got the car (Sept. 10th ... no trouble remembering the date), I couldn't drive it because I drove a Taurus SHO for years and its pedals are set up nice for heel 'n toe. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Agreed! I also came out of a Taurus SHO and the pedal placement in that car was perfect for heel and toeing! It took a bit of practice on the SS to get it down right for the street, and then even more practice before I was able to do it consistently on a road course without messing up. The factory pedal placement is not great, but is workable if you rest the left side of the ball of your foot on the right side of the brake pedal (this shortens the distance over to the gas pedal). My problem was not being able to feel where my foot was on the brake pedal because I wasn't wearing the right shoe. Believe it or not, the shoe that works for me is the Clarke's (of England) boat shoe!! The sole is a perfect thickness and allows great feel!
BTW, the guy who was making the gas pedal extender is Eric Liebscher. He is not making them anymore as he has lost access to the CNC machine he was using. A godd friend of mine got one of the last ones, and it is a GREAT mod. I wish that somebody would come up with an equivalent piece.
Best regardSS,
Elie
