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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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None of y'all ************* have any reading comprehension do you? I claimed that it would take a fast n/a 331 to run mid tens. And it ******* would.
Wow, did I strike a nerve there?

EDIT: And actually, you are the one suffering from reading comprehension. Either that, or you have no idea how DA affects cars and their times. Unless you have some sort of magical car..

I need a bottle? You must have the fastest 331 in existence.
^^ See above. No, you didn't. You said he must have the fastest 331 in existence to run mid 10's (which is a number that you made up that your car would run with spray. Ricer math much ) That claim is the dumbest thing that I have heard in awhile. Considering theres probably a few in the 8's. 9's without a doubt. Just stop talking, you're not helping your case..
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Originally Posted by 92builtbird
Wow, did I strike a nerve there?

EDIT: And actually, you are the one suffering from reading comprehension. Either that, or you have no idea how DA affects cars and their times. Unless you have some sort of magical car..



^^ See above. No, you didn't. You said he must have the fastest 331 in existence to run mid 10's (which is a number that you made up that your car would run with spray. Ricer math much ) That claim is the dumbest thing that I have heard in awhile. Considering theres probably a few in the 8's. 9's without a doubt. Just stop talking, you're not helping your case..
I don't know how DA effects cars? You need to read the damn thread.

I have no doubt my that my car would run mid-high tens on the spray and it would take mid 10s to beat it. I'm sure there are a few n/a 331s running that, but not this one. However, 8s? From a 331 on motor? Get real. 9s maybe in a rail dragster, but not in a SN95.

I may have implied things that were unsaid, but I didn't mean to say that it would take the fastest 331 to run 11.6.

I don't have to help my case. I don't claim to be a Mustang expert, but I believe very strongly that this guy doesn't have what it takes. He may prove me wrong, but I'm not street racing his *** to find out.
Old Mar 29, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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I gotta agree with him on a one of those slow *** 2 valves running 10's or 9's: maybe in a 2000 pound dragster with a 100lb fiberglass mustang body on it, but there is no way in hell one of those things is putting out the 700-800hp it would take to drag a 3200lb+ mustang to 9's and 10's. Unless you guys found a way to make that overhead cam scream to 12,000rpms like a nascar!?
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Originally Posted by blackz28x07
This thread made me laugh. Thank you stopsign and lemons!
You are welcome sir!
Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
So are you calling me a liar? Want me to go to the trouble of scanning the time slips for you?

Maybe my car just got slower in that few months that I didn't run it. I'd love to get the kind of gains from DA that you expect. I should be easily in the 7.2s maybe even teens.
Unless it has the DA on there, no point really is there.
If I'm running 7.6 @ 90mph in 2000DA I would expect around a 7.4 @ 93mph or so in the DA you run in.. Cars are all different though. Cam only I ran 7.6 in 2800 DA... Went back a few weeks later (absolutely*nothing*changed) and the DA was 1900 and I ran 7.4s... Tell me DA doesn't matter.
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lmao so if you dont beat him you got some buddies with faster cars than you that can? Oh and nice car btw
He won't have to get an 03 Cobra to do the job.
Originally Posted by 92builtbird
Wow, did I strike a nerve there?

EDIT: And actually, you are the one suffering from reading comprehension. Either that, or you have no idea how DA affects cars and their times. Unless you have some sort of magical car..
You must have missed it... He DOES have a magical car, he is number 36 on the SI list. DUH!!!!
Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I have no doubt my that my car would run mid-high tens on the spray and it would take mid 10s to beat it. I'm sure there are a few n/a 331s running that, but not this one. However, 8s? From a 331 on motor? Get real. 9s maybe in a rail dragster, but not in a SN95.
So you know for a fact you could run a 175 without blowing through the converter or breaking the rear? Can't claim times you haven't/can't run.
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I don't know how DA effects cars? You need to read the damn thread.

I have no doubt my that my car would run mid-high tens on the spray and it would take mid 10s to beat it. I'm sure there are a few n/a 331s running that, but not this one. However, 8s? From a 331 on motor? Get real. 9s maybe in a rail dragster, but not in a SN95.

I may have implied things that were unsaid, but I didn't mean to say that it would take the fastest 331 to run 11.6.

I don't have to help my case. I don't claim to be a Mustang expert, but I believe very strongly that this guy doesn't have what it takes. He may prove me wrong, but I'm not street racing his *** to find out.
Show me where I said 8's on a 331 N/A... or 9's for that matter. That's right, I didn't.


You must have missed it... He DOES have a magical car, he is number 36 on the SI list. DUH!!!!
There's probably 36 just from Detroit that could be on that list
Old Mar 29, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
You are welcome sir!
I think he's laughing at you.

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Unless it has the DA on there, no point really is there.
If I'm running 7.6 @ 90mph in 2000DA I would expect around a 7.4 @ 93mph or so in the DA you run in.. Cars are all different though. Cam only I ran 7.6 in 2800 DA... Went back a few weeks later (absolutely*nothing*changed) and the DA was 1900 and I ran 7.4s... Tell me DA doesn't matter.
It has the date and it's too easy to look up past DA on dragtimes. I'm sure there wasn't much weather change from 7-25-09 to 2-20-10. One day was low 80s the other was low 50s. And as I said. I'm 2 tenths faster in the cold weather in the 1/4 but only .1 int he 1/8. DA does matter, but I think you might be asking for too much. Every car is different though. Mine might be a special car that runs the same all the time.

And maybe your car is just inconsistent? Bad tune? Bad MAF??? I actually rule out just about every variable when I go to the track since I log and tune as well. I know exactly how my car acts in most conditions.


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He won't have to get an 03 Cobra to do the job.
Do you know every Mustang *** on this board? And it takes more than just a 03 Cobra also.

Originally Posted by lemons12
You must have missed it... He DOES have a magical car, he is number 36 on the SI list. DUH!!!!
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So you know for a fact you could run a 175 without blowing through the converter or breaking the rear? Can't claim times you haven't/can't run.
175? I wouldn't need that much. I'm sure it wouldn't be as good on this converter as it would another. Still, you don't think I can pick up .7? I've heard you say a million times that you're old car would have run 10s in the 1/4 if you had a tune and could hook, etc... So you can claim times but I can't?
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Originally Posted by 92builtbird
Show me where I said 8's on a 331 N/A... or 9's for that matter. That's right, I didn't.
Well you said 8s and 9s. You didn't specify NA but that's what this argument is about. If you want to bring more irrelevant info into this thread be my guest but make it know what you are talking about.



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There's probably 36 just from Detroit that could be on that list
I don't claim it to be special. Anyone can do it. Sure there are weather variation and track conditions that play a big part, but anyone should be able to do something very similar. Do you have an LS1 car?
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I think he's laughing at you.
nope.
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Originally Posted by blackz28x07
nope.
Well you're an idiot too.
Old Mar 29, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
Well you said 8s and 9s. You didn't specify NA but that's what this argument is about. If you want to bring more irrelevant info into this thread be my guest but make it know what you are talking about.





I don't claim it to be special. Anyone can do it. Sure there are weather variation and track conditions that play a big part, but anyone should be able to do something very similar.

Its going to be real hard to explain this to you. So try to hang with me here. You told Stopsign that it would take the fastest 331 in the world to run with you on the bottle.. Which is a ridiculously false statement.

How is what I said irrelevant? You made a bs claim which was wrong, and I called you out.

Do you have an LS1 car?
No? Do I need to?
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
Well you're an idiot too.
Well thanks man! I really appreciate it!

also, OP, nice kill. I haven't ran across any mustangs yet
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Originally Posted by 92builtbird
Its going to be real hard to explain this to you. So try to hang with me here. You told Stopsign that it would take the fastest 331 in the world to run with you on the bottle.. Which is a ridiculously false statement.

How is what I said irrelevant? You made a bs claim which was wrong, and I called you out.
Ok. Let me clarify what I meant. Sometimes I get in a hurry when I have 4 or 5 retards coming at me with stupid **** on the net. I should have said that he would need the most powerful n/a 331 to run against me on the bottle. Because even still he has to drive the damn car. Sorry I didn't specify.

Of course that's still me assuming that stopsign isn't going to try to spray me. In which case he might could outrun me the way I sit now, if he doesn't **** up the driving part.

Either way. I'm glad you got to put in your 2 cents in this thread. I'm definitely a smarter person because of it.


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No? Do I need to?
I just always wonder how people end up on LS1tech and don't have an LS1.
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I think he's laughing at you.
Highly doubt that....

And maybe your car is just inconsistent? Bad tune? Bad MAF??? I actually rule out just about every variable when I go to the track since I log and tune as well. I know exactly how my car acts in most conditions
My tuner is one (if not the best) tuner in the South, it is not the tune. My MAF is fine... My car runs dead consistent.. Within .1 all night long, even hot lapped.
Do you know every Mustang *** on this board? And it takes more than just a 03 Cobra also.
Most of them... I have a buddy with an 03 Cobra that would have to give you about a second jump.... Stock eaton/IRS/6 speed

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I know what number it is... Was just seeing if you would point it out just one more time... It is hilarious how highly you think of that..
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Originally Posted by blackz28x07
Well thanks man! I really appreciate it!

also, OP, nice kill. I haven't ran across any mustangs yet
Wow, someone that acts like an adult on the internet! Now go away.
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Originally Posted by blackz28x07
nope.
Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
Well you're an idiot too.
Didn't think so... Yea man... We are all idiots, you are high and mighty.
Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
Ok. Let me clarify what I meant. Sometimes I get in a hurry when I have 4 or 5 retards coming at me with stupid **** on the net. I should have said that he would need the most powerful n/a 331 to run against me on the bottle. Because even still he has to drive the damn car. Sorry I didn't specify.

Of course that's still me assuming that stopsign isn't going to try to spray me. In which case he might could outrun me the way I sit now, if he doesn't **** up the driving part.

Either way. I'm glad you got to put in your 2 cents in this thread. I'm definitely a smarter person because of it.

I just always wonder how people end up on LS1tech and don't have an LS1.
He wouldn't need to spray you to **** on you.
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Originally Posted by lemons12

My tuner is one (if not the best) tuner in the South, it is not the tune. My MAF is fine... My car runs dead consistent.. Within .1 all night long, even hot lapped.
Who is the tuner?

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Most of them... I have a buddy with an 03 Cobra that would have to give you about a second jump.... Stock eaton/IRS/6 speed
That's good. Most Terminator Cobras around here run 12s. Being that they are almost all 6 speeds you never can tell what you're up against.

Originally Posted by lemons12
I know what number it is... Was just seeing if you would point it out just one more time... It is hilarious how highly you think of that..
I knew you would like it.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Didn't think so... Yea man... We are all idiots, you are high and mighty.
Something we can agree on there.

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He wouldn't need to spray you to **** on you.
I think that means outrun me. Let me get this straight, this clown with a heads, cam 331 mustang and a 5 speed is going to outrun me at the track on motor?

Is that because he has a faster time than me? Or is it that just your extensive knowledge of all things automotive.
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
Ok. Let me clarify what I meant. Sometimes I get in a hurry when I have 4 or 5 retards coming at me with stupid **** on the net. I should have said that he would need the most powerful n/a 331 to run against me on the bottle. Because even still he has to drive the damn car. Sorry I didn't specify.

Of course that's still me assuming that stopsign isn't going to try to spray me. In which case he might could outrun me the way I sit now, if he doesn't **** up the driving part.

Either way. I'm glad you got to put in your 2 cents in this thread. I'm definitely a smarter person because of it.
I doubt it.


I just always wonder how people end up on LS1tech and don't have an LS1.
Because I want to learn? Last time I checked theres also a Small Block/Big Block Chevy section. Everyone has a right to come to this board to learn more about cars and their competition. If you disagree, tell that to an Admin.
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Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
I can handle mustangs just fine

Espically the 04 Cobra with a solid axel, MT DRs, 75 shot, adj shocks
You beat the driver, not the car. Big difference.
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
I think that means outrun me. Let me get this straight, this clown with a heads, cam 331 mustang and a 5 speed is going to outrun me at the track on motor?
Here is what my heads, cam 331 mustang and a 6 speed made on motor.

Mind you this is through chambered mufflers with an OTS hydraulic camshaft (.576/.576) and after 5 to 6 pulls on the dyno getting the tune correct. And this is all out of the box parts with no port work past gasket matching the intake to the heads (something any good engine builder does reguardless).



Had I put 1.7 RRs on it and a little better exhaust the car would have made 470+rwhp with ease. No idea what it would have done if I decided to port the intake or the heads. I just had some left over parts that I used so I could get the car on the road. I'm not much for the ricer math racing so I will let you decide on what it would run.



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