Suspension & Brakes Springs | Shocks | Handling | Rotors

Extra tips/tricks/FYI's for shock/spring install?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:41 PM
  #1  
Regulator's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default Extra tips/tricks/FYI's for shock/spring install?

Going to be tackling this tomorrow, I've read over the ls1howto directions, but just curious if there was anything else in particular that people seem to run into? Bolts that break/freeze up in the sleeves, etc?
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 03:32 AM
  #2  
sjsingle1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 6,761
Likes: 292
From: Fort Worth TX
Default

the front shock nuts will be rusted like a bitch.......prepare to replace.....cut.....or torch off
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 07:11 AM
  #3  
Blue2002SS's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 357
Likes: 0
From: Tempe, AZ
Default

some people have trouble getting the spindle arm off the bolt near the top, as was I. but after pounding on it for 5 minutes I just loaded up the suspension about 1" and it just fell off!
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:12 AM
  #4  
RevGTO's Avatar
Pontiacerator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,216
Likes: 236
From: Wichita KS / Rancho San Diego
Default

If possible, find a shop with a wall mount compressor. Makes the job 1000x easier than using rental compressors. Make sure that the lower shock mount is lined up correctly with the upper rubber insulator when you tighten the nut. Take note of the correct orientation before you disassemble the shock assembly.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:25 AM
  #5  
Regulator's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default

Originally Posted by sjsingle1
the front shock nuts will be rusted like a bitch.......prepare to replace.....cut.....or torch off
Seriously? I guess I'll make a run by GM then to get some new shock nuts
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 01:33 PM
  #6  
Arc00TA's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 1
From: The 'Nard
Default

Originally Posted by Regulator
Seriously? I guess I'll make a run by GM then to get some new shock nuts
Yes, they are bad. 90% of the time, they are rusted beyond recognition, even on my rust-free socal cars. I just went through this hassle 3 or 4 nights ago. The passenger side I ended up cutting off with my dremel.

Heres my other tip. If you use a socket on the nut, usually it will only come up half way before the whole shock starts to spin internally, requiring you to use a 14mm wrench and a 6mm wrench to hold the top piece still.

So, under that nut is a rubber coated big washer thing, that fits the shape cut into the top of the mount. I cut off with a knife the rubber "ear" that is on the side that doesn't have the studs so its much easier to put a wrench on there and turn it. You will see what I mean when you take it apart, but there are two little ears on the left and right of the nut that make it a bitch to put a wrench on it. This helps if the nut is seized on there real well and you need to put some torque to it.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 02:52 PM
  #7  
libertyforall1776's Avatar
TECH Addict
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,129
Likes: 5
From: IL
Default

Anything else that typically needs replacing besides the nuts (and mounts, if they don't come out)?
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 02:54 PM
  #8  
Regulator's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 228
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default

we're talking about the nut that comes through the shock tower and holds on the spring top hat correct?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 04:15 PM
  #9  
Arc00TA's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 1
From: The 'Nard
Default

Originally Posted by Regulator
we're talking about the nut that comes through the shock tower and holds on the spring top hat correct?
Yep. Also, another tip I would share, when you pull out the bolts on the passenger side swap them for the torx bits on the drivers side. It makes it much easier to put back together and/or take apart again if you have to.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:35 PM
  #10  
00blackvert's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

Have to agree on orientation of spring/shock to lower mount... had a shop with a wall mounted compressor complete... got home, all ready to install and it wouldnt line up correctly. I couldnt turn as the spring was compressed so I had to bring them back the next day...
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 08:55 PM
  #11  
98TAjwh's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
From: San Diego
Default

since you're in there it won't hurt to take a look at the normal wear and tear parts, tie rods and ball joints.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:07 PM
  #12  
libertyforall1776's Avatar
TECH Addict
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,129
Likes: 5
From: IL
Default

I don't understand -- you are saying the bolts are different on driver vs. passenger sides?


Originally Posted by Arc00TA
Yep. Also, another tip I would share, when you pull out the bolts on the passenger side swap them for the torx bits on the drivers side. It makes it much easier to put back together and/or take apart again if you have to.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:27 PM
  #13  
LaBLKv6Z's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 215
From: Lafayette, Louisiana
Default

Yeah, the bolt heads are different on the two upper mounts towards the fire wall on the driverside. You'll have to remove the two nuts on the master cylinder and move it alittle to get to those bolts also.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 11:01 PM
  #14  
99'CajunFirehawk157's Avatar
TECH Addict
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
iTrader: (57)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,771
Likes: 18
From: USA
Exclamation Yeah I got rusted Nutz!

Be ready for these, this took most of my time getting the struts changed...
Attached Thumbnails Extra tips/tricks/FYI's for shock/spring install?-hot-013.jpg   Extra tips/tricks/FYI's for shock/spring install?-hot-036.jpg  
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:29 AM
  #15  
Arc00TA's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 1
From: The 'Nard
Default

Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
I don't understand -- you are saying the bolts are different on driver vs. passenger sides?
Yeah. If you look at your shock tower, you will see two studs and two bolts. the Drivers side, in GM's infinite wisdom, has two torx head bolts, UNDER the brake reservoir. This means you need to loose the master cylinder to get a tall *** torx bit in there. The passenger side, however, has two regular 13mm bolts. Go figure. I always swap them so its much easier next time. They are the same size and thread just one is bolt head one is torx head. No rhyme or reason.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:31 AM
  #16  
Arc00TA's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 1
From: The 'Nard
Default

Originally Posted by 99'CajunFirehawk157
Be ready for these, this took most of my time getting the struts changed...
Yep, those are the biggest pain. You can see the rubber ears I was talking about in that one. What a pain in the *** design.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:50 AM
  #17  
99SSJarhead's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 549
Likes: 1
From: Deloit IA
Default

Originally Posted by Arc00TA
I always swap them so its much easier next time. They are the same size and thread just one is bolt head one is torx head. No rhyme or reason.
demmit. I wish I had thought of that when I swapped my upper arms
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 03:33 AM
  #18  
Snake_Skinner's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,124
Likes: 2
From: In front of a mustang
Default

Subscribing for when i drop my big bad blue Snake Skinning bitch.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:58 PM
  #19  
HAZ-Matt's Avatar
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 766
Likes: 2
From: Houston
Default

The first best tip is to pay someone else to do the fronts

Originally Posted by RevGTO
If possible, find a shop with a wall mount compressor. Makes the job 1000x easier than using rental compressors. Make sure that the lower shock mount is lined up correctly with the upper rubber insulator when you tighten the nut. Take note of the correct orientation before you disassemble the shock assembly.
This is definitely the second best tip. Don't waste your time with some crappy compressor from Autozone, get someone else to compress them for you.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:31 PM
  #20  
Tommyv8's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 645
Likes: 3
From: St. Charles, MO
Default

Originally Posted by 98TAjwh
since you're in there it won't hurt to take a look at the normal wear and tear parts, tie rods and ball joints.
How can you tell if those need to be replaced?
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:54 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-04 18:13:20


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE