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Old 03-21-2016, 05:48 AM
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Currently I have 18x9.5 wagon wheels with 295/35 Goodyear Eagle F1 supercar tires all around that are dry rotted from sitting so long and close to the wear bars. I can't hook for **** unless I get them hot, and the front end is super finicky, it pulls with every groove in the road and wants to turn all the time.










Last night I picked up some c6 wheels with great tread bfg g force sport comp 2 tires date code 2012 18x8.5 front with 245/40 tires and 19x10 rear with 285/35 tires that the chrome is in bad shape, but I will black them out anyways. I only paid $200, so I couldn't pass them up.






I have to buy 1.25" adapters for the rear and 1" for the fronts now, and swap back in stock length rear wheel studs for the spacers. It would look like this with them installed, via google.




I think the narrower tires in the front will fix the wandering issue, but I don't think I like 19s, too big. What do you guys think? I haven't bought the spacers yet and I think I could flip them for at least $500, and buy a set if c5 thin spoke 17/18s which I really want. I don't want to buy new tires for the wagon wheels because even the sumitomo hrz3 is like $140 a tire. I think I could get $300 for my current setup, and I'm trying to as cheaply as possible get traction for this car. I sold my deville this weekend and I'm moving forward with the new clutch, injectors, gaskets, etc to do the new heads/cam, and I want traction before I put on the heads/cam. I passed up a set of c5 thin spokes with Michelin run flat all season tires at 80% tread for $500 thinking I could deal with the c6 19s, but now I'm having second thoughts on the 19s.
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I have never been a big fan of the regular C6 wheels on a Fbody. I also feel the 19's are too big for Fbodies (in this type of wheel anyway). If your low on dough stay the same size so you can save on immediately purchasing new wheels
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Too big.
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I bought the adapters, so when they get here Ill try them out, but may end up selling them again on Craigslist. I just need something for now to have traction. I want 17s all around.
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Ya, tacky. Do not like.

Interested in a set of 10 spokes?
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Not right now, Ill see how these feel painted black. I dont really care about looks, it just needs to look decent enough to not **** me off. Black should help get rid of the bling.
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Personally I'm not a fan of anything bigger than a 17 on 4th gens. Some 18s look OK though really depends on the wheel
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One of the complaints about the SS with the ZR1 wheels was highway wander/troughing. I guess the wider the tire the more sensitive it is to road conditions. I think what also multiplies that problem is if your toe adjustment is out of whack.
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Wandering or darting? Wandering can be addressed with an alignment. Darting can be addressed with tires.

Buff, those Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires are THE worst tire I've ever had. By far, just horrible. Crap, utter crap. Anything under 50°f out and I could break the rear out at 65mph with ease, and that was when I was stock. So that's probably your biggest issue. Continental ExtremeContact DW (or DWS for all season) make tires in that size and are significantly better in every category. You can also do the LCA relocation brackets if you haven't already, this will help with traction too.

If you go with 17's I'd recommend the Conti's or the BFG Sport Comp-2 A/S, both have excellent traction for the price.

I agree 19's are too big. Thin side walls also kill the ride quality and even worse pot holes destroy them in quick fashion due to the lack of side wall. 18's work, but I noticed a big improvement in ride quality going down to 17's. The car does sway a bit more in hard turning (the turn in isn't as quick), but traction is still good (turning). I also noticed the car is not darty with the 275/40r17's (BFG Sport Comp-2) than it was with the 275/35r18 run flats (Michelin) I used to have.

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Darty, not wandering. Alignment is on the list as soon as the new tires are on there. I ordered the 1.25" spacers all around, $89 shipped, gonna hit them with some plasti dip black and see if I can deal with DUB -1s, if not, Craigslist they go.
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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
Darty, not wandering. Alignment is on the list as soon as the new tires are on there. I ordered the 1.25" spacers all around, $89 shipped, gonna hit them with some plasti dip black and see if I can deal with DUB -1s, if not, Craigslist they go.
I noticed with the low pro run flats My car was super darty. That all went away with the none run flats 17s. When I had none run flat 18s (285/35r18) the darting wasn't as bad as the run flats.
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I dunno, I think they're sized right, but the pics are kind of a funny angle, her shirt is funky so its hard to really see their size....


I dont like wagon wheels on anything. So the c6 wheels are a great improvement in my mind. I think the 19's look good out back too, that car just needs to be lowered like .5-1"
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It's already on BMR springs, I can't go much lower, but its got around 300lbs pulled out so it does sit about stock height. I think the darting is from to big in front, when I put this setup on I thought I'd be road racing and autocross and wanted to rotate tires, but babies come and now it sees more DD duty and street duty so that's out the window. I just want it to hook and stay stable on back roads to work, the *** end is way too unpredictable (stupid cold eagle f1s), and the front is darty so it always wants to just crank around a corner, making it harder to keep the back planted. Ill black out the 19s, I just want it to hook and give back confidence on back roads, right now it feels like I'm going to dart too quick, unsettle the *** end and wind up in a tree. My dream wheels are the magnesium vette wheels blacked out, hard to find tho.

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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
Darty, not wandering. Alignment is on the list as soon as the new tires are on there. I ordered the 1.25" spacers all around, $89 shipped, gonna hit them with some plasti dip black and see if I can deal with DUB -1s, if not, Craigslist they go.
Plasti dip wont make them look any better, just like it didn't for the wagon wheels.
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Yea but it won't make them look worse, just like the wagon wheels, it'll make it less obvious I have ghetto bling. My car was never about looking good, it's ******* ugly. I just want to go fast without spending a lot of money. The 18s and 295s all around wagon wheels was because I thought I'd put on ctsv front brakes, which won't clear 17s, but I'm not doing that anymore, so no need for 18s anymore, if I do upgrade front brakes it'll be ls1 front brakes, or c5 at most. The car weighs 3100lbs, I finally realized I don't need brakes designed for a 4000lb car.

My concern with the 19s is too little sidewall to hook in a straight line, and too heavy. The 285/35/19 BFG tires weigh a staggering 31lbs each according to tire rack. I paid $200 total for all of them, plus $89 for the spacers, and am selling my wagon wheels for $300, so I'm net +$11 (minus $8 in rattle can so +$3), with new tires that I hope don't slide as much as the stupid Eagle F1s.

Ill throw the wagon wheels on a scale but I think the 4 wagon wheels probably weigh more than the 4 c6s total, since the fronts on the c6s feel light as hell compared to the rear.

So are the 19s too heavy, will they suck in a straight line even with the only 3.5 year old BFGs, will the car handle better with the 18/19 setup with BFGs vs the 18/18 295 setup with Eagle F1s? Was 295 on the front a stupid idea? Should fronts be limited to 245 regardless of wheel size to avoid darty behavior? We will find out Saturday when the spacers come in and next Monday on its maiden back road drive to work.
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It doesnt have to be ugly, here's my old polo green LS swap car...and I also had dipped wagons on it before these lol.
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THAT looks perfect. That's what I want, black 17 zr1s. Or magnesium 17" front and rear vette wheels.
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Yea I use to get a lot of compliments on her. Good color to work with.
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I like the black c5 deep dish wheels a lot. I lucked out on my corvette and got 4 a mold zr1 wheels 17x9.5. Had 245 or 255 up front, I switched to 275 all around for wear and rotation purposes. Car follows ruts a lot now though.

On a green lt1 I think black with polished lip 5 spoke zr1 or c5 deep dish are the best
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Wouldn't you know it, last night some 17" ws6 wheels with good tires popped up on Craigslist for $500


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