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Old 09-02-2016, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Being behind someone at the finish line is now the loser freight training the other car?
He's on that Hillary Clinton *** backwards logic.
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
He's on that Hillary Clinton *** backwards logic.
You couldn't even think about keeping up with my well oiled machine, squirt.
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Every time a GM loses is the same tune from Hio, "a proper car would smoke that". Lol
Well....it's real easy to see this was not proper and although didn't perform as it would be capable if in the right hands still came around the 5br0
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Given Dug's definition of proper, there are only 2 proper NA 5Gs out of all of those produced.
From the looks of the 5gen succes as of late there seems to be more.
Originally Posted by kinglt-1
no point in putting a cam in a LS3 to shift it around 6300 rpm. Might as well just leave it stock and finish doing all the bolt-ons.

On a side note, OP's car gets the job done...he can flat out drive and hit them shifts. One of my favorite bros to date!!

BlkMach1, watch the vids over...It was a tie 1-1. I agree the Bro was most impressive on this one.
Yea....why cam it and shift at 6300. Even stock camned onescan go to 7k.
Originally Posted by islander033
I've never seen a cammed LS3 vette trap ~130mph. I've seen HCEI C6Z and modded C6ZR1 do it though.

Good kill op!
Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I've seen a h/c one trap 125
Well.....take a look at the sig chumps. If a bolt on ls6 is capable of 130 traps then a cammed ls3 sure as hell is.
Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
You couldn't even think about keeping up with my well oiled machine, squirt.
Lolz
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
You mean blowing right by, right after the 550 foot finish line? Derp. When you gonna man up and come get mopped up?
When you man up and put some skin in the game. I'm sure me being ahead at the finish line will result in me being "freight trained" as well.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
When you man up and put some skin in the game. I'm sure me being ahead at the finish line will result in me being "freight trained" as well.
Jake be like...
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Good run OP! Not a fan of GM auto's, but still good shifting on your part! 5.0's run very well. I saw a 490 RWHP CJ, Full exhaust, E85, CAI, and cams. Revved to 8000 and pulled hard!

Perhaps some GT350 heads and some of the new cam lobes in the future? Maybe GT350 top end, cams, E85?
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
You couldn't even think about keeping up with my well oiled machine, squirt.
Yea I bet it's well oiled, bet it leaks from every gasket imaginable.
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Originally Posted by islander033
I've never seen a cammed LS3 vette trap ~130mph. I've seen HCEI C6Z and modded C6ZR1 do it though.

Good kill op!
Me either...


My buddy's 13' GS A6 is a intake/cam/exhaust/converter car and dynoed 490 rwhp locked. This was with a custom Pat G cam. Car ran 11.0@126 on 18" drag radials in -200' DA... and I thought that was pretty good myself.

Threw a blower on it, 9 psi, made 700rwhp on a real aggressive tune. Added an RTS drag pack with 17s and ran 9.56@142... Pretty consistent 9.70 car in +2000' DA.

I've seen quite a few cam only LS3s go 125-126....definitely nothing in the 130s... Hell most LS7 stick cars are barely going low 130s..
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I've seen a h/c one trap 125
Also a local guy name Andrew has a GS with cam and supporting mods but with a nitrous tune and he traps 127. Doesn't have any head work done. I'm sure he can get 130 out of it.
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Originally Posted by BlkMach1
Yea I bet it's well oiled, bet it leaks from every gasket imaginable.
as an Fbody owner this had me going lol
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Well....this only leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions.

1- being my little bolt on ls6 is possibly one of the baddest engines on the planet for what it is

Or

2- you guys buddies don't know hotrods that well


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Trap speeds can vary, especially at different locations. I would expect a cammed LS3 manual vette to trap 125 at a minimum anywhere.

most medium sized cams with make 450-475rwhp... Should be enough to pull a full bolt-on bro.

my car has a turbo cam (so N/a numbers aren't great), but I make peak power from 6500 to 6700 before it starts to drop off. I don't understand the shifting at 6300.
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Trap speeds can vary, especially at different locations. I would expect a cammed LS3 manual vette to trap 125 at a minimum anywhere.

most medium sized cams with make 450-475rwhp... Should be enough to pull a full bolt-on bro.

my car has a turbo cam (so N/a numbers aren't great), but I make peak power from 6500 to 6700 before it starts to drop off. I don't understand the shifting at 6300.
I would think you can achieve more power than 450 with a cam ls3. Alot of ls1 combos are making that type of power. Sure a stingy dyno I can see 450 but a cammed ls3 should be 470+ easily. However, all setups are different.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Well....this only leads me to 1 of 2 conclusions.

1- being my little bolt on ls6 is possibly one of the baddest engines on the planet for what it is

Or

2- you guys buddies don't know hotrods that well



2008 LS3 C6 Corvette Cam Only 10.73@131.18 - YouTube

Cam only ls3 10.57 @ 131.33 - YouTube
I've seen the "cam only" ls3 vette fast list. It's pretty impressive.
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
I would think you can achieve more power than 450 with a cam ls3. Alot of ls1 combos are making that type of power. Sure a stingy dyno I can see 450 but a cammed ls3 should be 470+ easily. However, all setups are different.
with the 5g camaros, 20rwhp difference is common between cars with power steering and electronic steering. You typically see lower numbers from the 2010 to 2012? Camaros versus the later 5g's.

It takes s pretty decent size size cam for a ls1 to hit 450rwhp cam only (it happens more on the inter web than around here).
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
with the 5g camaros, 20rwhp difference is common between cars with power steering and electronic steering. You typically see lower numbers from the 2010 to 2012? Camaros versus the later 5g's.

It takes s pretty decent size size cam for a ls1 to hit 450rwhp cam only (it happens more on the inter web than around here).
That is true. A large cam or a good ported head with a good size cam. Definitely achievable
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500rwhp is pretty easy for a mild cam/FBO ls3 with all of the supporting mods.

I too have seen the C6 fast list on Corvette Forum for NA ls3 cars and it is impressive. I was also impressed by a member on here, Shane Fap, who knows Badbowtie Sean. He had the 9 second sbe procharged g8 gt for awhile and he is a tuner.

I think back when he had his 08 1lt a6 c6 it went 12.5@115 stock, 11.1@121 with mild bolt ons, and 10.62@126 with a cam. Personally for the Midwest, I'd be game with those results.
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Great runs. Went exzactly how I expected it too.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
How do you guys fail to comprehend your own vids?



Good catch......short shifting ftw

Reinforces my argument here.
I dont doubt OPs car is strong and he has the driver mod. But it doesnt make sense hes beating a cammed LS3 Vette. Unless he weights like 3000lbs.
How can anybody pay for a cam and not run it over stock limiter? Thats a half as s setup right there and the tune probably sucks. It falls back into a dip in the powerband and cant accelarate properly. It might be slower than a strong running boltons Vette.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
500rwhp is pretty easy for a mild cam/FBO ls3 with all of the supporting mods
i guess you and I have different definitions of mild cam.

Generally speaking:
mild cam = up to 225 duration
medium cam = 226-235 duration
large cam = 236+ duration

i am not familiar with any LS3's that make 500rwhp cam only with mild (like you state) or even medium cams. The few that I can think of have larger cams like the night fury cam.



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