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Old 05-27-2017, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 98_WS6_M6
Sounds like good mods to decrease rotational mass even further. I know quite a few guys who daily strange brakes.
The strange brakes will def make a difference. The CFDS, not so sure. I see hammers point. But it does run smoother for me vs the aluminum.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
that's weird I specifically remember you saying in another thread it was a timing error.....so you're really saying the car cut a 1.2 sixty at 400ish rwhp?

as a separate comment the tri y stuff is interesting, might have to do a little searching on that.
There is thread with me explaining how that went down. I'm really not interested in scottys thread being about me.

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On a car as light as a c5z I wouldn't worry about the brakes to much.

A carbon drive shaft is nice but $$$$$ saves some rotating mass but the diameter is so small I'm not convinced it makes a difference
+1.....if you're to the point you need a driveshaft and have the extra $ then go carbon or find a used one. Carbon ones don't have to have a loop either. To me that was worth it.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
There is thread with me explaining how that went down. I'm really not interested in scottys thread being about me.
Shouldn't be that difficult, a simple yes/no would have sufficed. Either it did or didn't happen. Oh well.
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It is that difficult or it wouldn't have been brought up in the first place
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I don't have any experience with a carbon driveshaft. There is only a few lbs difference between it and aluminum but a big price difference. I'd say the money could be spent better elsewhere.

I do have experience with strange drag brakes and have already smoked a pair of front rotors at the DRAG strip. My car is pretty light also. I would not recommend them for daily driving at all. Occasional driving you might be ok but personally if my car was more street id switch back to atleast the stock front brakes. Fwiw
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Race brakes on the street for a daily spends on the souation. If you're in a lot of high speed stop and go then maybe not. If it's more of just an A to B drive to work then I wouldn't worry about it at all
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Darth has strange Drag brakes up front. He could probably comment on it. I haven't heard him complain at all.
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Good info on the drive shaft. So I can still do mechman alternator, short belt and rear aero panels. I machined a pocket in a new alt brkt so I have a pivot point to make it easier to get the short belt on, just have to put it on.

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Originally Posted by big hammer
Race brakes on the street for a daily spends on the souation. If you're in a lot of high speed stop and go then maybe not. If it's more of just an A to B drive to work then I wouldn't worry about it at all
This is about right here. If I had rush hour traffic I wouldn't do it. But for my drive to work it's fine. They actually stop better than my factory brakes. Also I'm running skinnies. That probably makes a difference.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
+1.....if you're to the point you need a driveshaft and have the extra $ then go carbon or find a used one. Carbon ones don't have to have a loop either. To me that was worth it.
Not needing the loop is nice. And I swear the CF quieted the car down over aluminum. If you're a NVH **** you'll love the CF
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I am a nvh ****. My car literally rides and drives very near to stock other than louder exhaust. I hate **** rattling and not working right.

I could see the racebrakes havjng a better feel and firmer pedal than stock. Althoough I would doubt they would out perform a properly working oe system on a hard stop. Not like it matters running a drag pak tho. You're at the mercy of the skinnies then. Repeated hard stops is mostly where they would start to show inadequatecy.
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I run carbon fiber drive shafts on all my cars even the vette. I love them. I do not like paying for them though
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Oh yea nice job Scotty. Badass car. I am jelly
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Originally Posted by Dian
so from honker, intake, tb, maf, balancer, headers and tune you got 100 hp, right? what timing do you run now?
What do they normally make stock?
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Scotty, from what I've seen these cars make 350-360 rwhp on your average dynojet dyno.
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Stock F bomb made 285 rwhp. LS6 likely 330-350
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I've seen up to 320 for old fbombs with 300~ likely being a norm for one in good running condition. I would think almost anything below 350 for a c5z would be low. Ls6 basically can/should make 50-60hp more than a ls1
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I'd buy that. Mine was on the low end stock. I've seen posts similar where people baselined as high as 320 - LS6 is really like a LS1 done right.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Just to point out something, I've seen a couple of Z06s run bone stock with DRs 118-119 in the quarter. So it's not that much of a freak. I would expect it to trap around 128 now if that power is real (and it isn't).

DynoDynamics are goofy *** dynos. They are good for tuning, but their numbers can be super inflated - they are not heartbreakers. Hinson had a 416 with TFS 235 heads and a 244 cam with 11.5:1 made 597/565 on theirs. On a dynojet, it was like 550/490. Good numbers, but not the LS7 crushing numbers they tried to sell.

Otherwise, throw a set of TFS 215 heads on there and a G5X3. 50rwhp + 70rwhp pretty standard for those mods on an LS6. Would put you at 560rwhp. Which it probably would do on a DD dyno.

And then it'd show 510 on a dynojet. Which is okay. It'll still trap 130-131.

Or hell, do like Jacob and do LLSR and MMS220s. He hit 520. You might hit 600 on that dyno.
This is a response from the tuner on a Facebook post I made. Everyone calling BS ha!
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