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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Armageddon
I'm sure you know this Arctic but you could really open it up with some heads.
between heads and intake, and depending on cam size im sure that sucker has a hell of a lot more left lol
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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artic what cam you running?
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
between heads and intake, and depending on cam size im sure that sucker has a hell of a lot more left lol
Damn skippy... 445 tq with a ridiculously restricted intake side

camarokid - the cam I'm running is a FMS 244/248 .635/.627 112 +2
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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Man, just talked to mike at G-Force. Car unlocked pulled 455rwhp 475rwtq. The cam we have is to small. He is going to order me a new one, alittle more duration and get the lift to like 640`s custom made. Not enough cam for my heads. This sucked!! I wanted her really bad, but O`well. Should have the new cam in by Sat, get it put in this weekend and see what happens. Will let everyone know then. Man I want 470 or better rwhp. I had a **** load of TRQ, just not enough RWHP!
Dave Lock that MF up on the dyno! That will take the verter out of the equation and let you know what the motor is REALLY making, then you can go from there with cam selection.....you might be quite suprised how much power you are losing through that converter.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Didn't dyno mine with my old setup, but the track times and setup are in the sig.

Have a new set of heads on the way from my head porter that are based on a better core and Kooks 1-7/8 to 2" stepped headers. I'll get dyno numbers when I get it back together.
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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i think im gonna go with the TSP giant, looks good to me!!
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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Well I have a FMS408ci of almost 2 years now if I remember correctly. 6.0L FMS/Meaux heads with 11.75 to 1 compression and 2.05 x 1.60 valves. You can see my dyno's in two cars.. F-body and Y-body...

http://photobucket.com/albums/v294/a...mparograph.jpg

No electric water pump or shortbelt mod. Small mixture of 104 octane with a huge mixture of 93 octane just for safety purposes. Now dont forget my heads are like 3 FMS updates behind.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Damn, i would expect to see higher numbers than this. It's almost making me not want to do a 402/408. What gives with all these low numbers. Some people are claming 5XXrwhp+/48Xrwtq+. I've personnaly seen my buddies SLP 402 put down 487rwhp487rwtq with an X3 and AFR 225's. He doens't even have the fast set up. This is also on a C5 M6 so that could be some of the reason. Most of the replys have been A4's. I can't think of why a more agressive set up can't make more. This was also done on 91 octane. To be honest my car only makes 414rwhp/385rwtq (cam only 228/232 .579 @ 112 lsa) so i would pretty damn happy with 480/480.
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people also need to realize a dyno is a dyno.... a car performing on the concrete/asphalt is totally different....

track times tell the story about HP because as said before dynos are all different....

as for the post above you cant go wrong with more cubes
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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yeah someone on here dyoned with afr heads and lost power but picked up a good bit of time at the track, the dyno doesnt tell the whole story, great for tuning though
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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My LME 408ci put down 447rwhp 413rwtq on a dynojet last time I messed with it.My specs are in my sig,I still need to port the fast intake,install pulley and possibly bigger headers,all this is thru an A4 with TCI 3500 and stock 10 bolt.I took it out for the first time last sunday ran a 11.04et 1.55st 123.45mph
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Thats a nice time for all motor first time out.


We should have new dyno results for beards 408 with the current cam next week. We just ordered a sweet pro torque converter. To get rid of the old Vig 3800.
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
people also need to realize a dyno is a dyno.... a car performing on the concrete/asphalt is totally different....

track times tell the story about HP because as said before dynos are all different....

as for the post above you cant go wrong with more cubes
I agree, i rather have a low dynoing car and kick *** on the street/strip then a car with great dyno number and doesn't perform on the street/strip.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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youd be surprised what a good low-midrange hp/tq car can get you...
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Mike TexaSS, I PM`d you!
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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I should have my 408/et 245 dyno numbers within the next, ooooh, 12 months or so. just waiting on the friggin et heads.

oh well
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by zulater
Damn, i would expect to see higher numbers than this. It's almost making me not want to do a 402/408. What gives with all these low numbers. Some people are claming 5XXrwhp+/48Xrwtq+. I've personnaly seen my buddies SLP 402 put down 487rwhp487rwtq with an X3 and AFR 225's. He doens't even have the fast set up. This is also on a C5 M6 so that could be some of the reason. Most of the replys have been A4's. I can't think of why a more agressive set up can't make more. This was also done on 91 octane. To be honest my car only makes 414rwhp/385rwtq (cam only 228/232 .579 @ 112 lsa) so i would pretty damn happy with 480/480.
A lot of the A4 cars will dyno low, but run like the devil when stalled correctly.

I have ordered a FAST 90 intake and NW TB for my setup. I am anxious to see how much I pick up after porting the new intake. My setup does not have a short belt, or electric water pump either. It's all in the parts combination. The heads have to flow insanely, the intake has to flow insanely, and the exhaust has to flow insanely. To get the high numbers, the budget of the build will climb quickly. A set of 1-7/8" headers will do wonders for HP, but they cost an arm and a leg.

I put down 522RWHP with a FAST 78mm intake and a BBK 80MM throttle body with adapting spacer. After I get my 90MM intake, I will port it and install it with the NW throttle body. Then I'll take it to the dyno and get the new numbers. This should be some great info for you 408 guys wanting to know how much power it's worth.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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We made 513/494 the other day on one of our 408's in a customers car (M6).

Combo:

408 (Eagle crank, Crower sportsman rods, Diamond pistons)
Custom 246/250 .630/.629 113+3
SSP/GTP-prepped 862 castings 2.055"/1.570" valves
Stock LS6 intake
Ported Stock TB
Stock bellows
Stock MAF
Beat up Kooks 1 7/8" headers
Custom 3" duals

Steel flywheel, steel DS, 12-bolt w/ 3.73's, chrome 18's, no dyno tricks. He needs a 90/90 setup bad and a bigger MAF to accompany it. It is a very streetable setup though. Hopefully he will take it to the track soon.

Looks like alot of you are making some real nice 408 #'s they are great motors.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonZ28
After I get my 90MM intake, I will port it and install it with the NW throttle body. Then I'll take it to the dyno and get the new numbers. This should be some great info for you 408 guys wanting to know how much power it's worth.
I picked up 4 tenths with mine! Now I'm anxious to see what the new 1-7/8 - 2" headers are gonna do!
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zulater
Damn, i would expect to see higher numbers than this. It's almost making me not want to do a 402/408. What gives with all these low numbers. Some people are claming 5XXrwhp+/48Xrwtq+. I've personnaly seen my buddies SLP 402 put down 487rwhp487rwtq with an X3 and AFR 225's. He doens't even have the fast set up. This is also on a C5 M6 so that could be some of the reason. Most of the replys have been A4's. I can't think of why a more agressive set up can't make more. This was also done on 91 octane. To be honest my car only makes 414rwhp/385rwtq (cam only 228/232 .579 @ 112 lsa) so i would pretty damn happy with 480/480.
I agree whole heartedly with this post. I blew my motor up the beginning of last season and am now ready to go bigger, but these #'s are all over the place. On that same note though, If I laid down 100hp/tq but ran 10's then I would be more than happy. Having a track only car i could care less about streetability. SDPC seems to producing a great product with a warrenty, but the way that these (the 402/408's), for the most part similar motors are all over in the power range it makes one weary about whats going on. Is it in the tune? Is it the builder? As a racer what I really want to know is what kind of times are this things throwing out? I know it all depends on setup and what not, but any track #'s are better then HP #'s to me. what I am looking to do is a 402 or 408 with a 90/90, et 245's, powerglide to a 9". Everything is set in stone other than the heart (the motor). So that being said, is 6 cubes worth the weight on the nose? I have so many questions on these motors that have yet to be fully answered in any of forums I visit. This being the tech site, of course the info i get here is the most informational. keep this thread alive and you guys that are already running these motors keep the info rolling because there is alot of us doing a balancing act on the eternal question what motor?
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