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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Default Uhh Ohhh, Vengeance doesnt break 500rwhp........

Thought I would post an average package for some of you guys to enjoy....

Car-2002 Camaro SS

Modifications Include:

TrickFLow TFS 215cc Cylinder Heads
Vengeance Racing Vindicator Camshaft
Harland Sharp Roller Rockers
Kooks 1 7/8 Longtubes/Ypipe/GMMG chambered Exhaust
LS7 (53lb) Clutch kit
ASP Pulley
FAST 90 ported by Vengeance
Nick Williams 90mm TB
4:10 gear

Stock Waterpump, stock MAF, Stock 17" SS wheels (Powder coated), stock injectors/fuel pump, Full exhaust, full belt, 72000 mile shortblock.



Notice the torque is still over 375 @ 3500rpms and maintains OVER 400 ft lbs from 4500 up..... Customer drove this car home 5 hours after install getting 24mpg.......

Thanx again for your continued support!!!!!! As you can see, we do produce normal #s as well Sometimes we are given the opportunity to go all out and sometimes we arent....
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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Great numbers Ron,

You might want to research another option for those HS rockers, I know they are needed because of the sweep patter across the valve tip but they do cost you about 15-20hp up top because of the weight.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Great numbers, I don't think anyone questioned your work or ability to setup combos that work, I think its more with the dyno calibration.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Thanx Juiced, we have looked into other options, but right now the Harlands are doing the job...


Phil, dyno is right on... been proven over and over again... Thanx for the props though
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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What did your guys end up doing @ the track? I've been soo busy with my project haven't had time to keep up with drag racing.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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A4 car from NC that makes 450 unlocked is running 10.70s@126mph on his first shakedown runs. He is putting in a spool and 4:30s and going back shortly.. That was in +1800DA

Z06 that made 503 on our dyno went 101 in the 1/8th first time out in complete street trim... We also had a 4165lb GTO (raceweight) trapping 120mph with heads cam two weeks ago in 2200ft DA.. .... We have a 416 waiting to go to the track, but the customer cracked his Bogarts driving them on the street.. waiting for replacement centers for him.....
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Nice #s vengence. Is the vindicator a mild camshaft?

Also is there any FACT or PROOF that the HS rockers cost 15-20hp? Never heard of this before....
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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Nice numbers Ron. These guys are great.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CraZee ZO6
Nice #s vengence. Is the vindicator a mild camshaft
Hell no, its a big cam for a 346.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Very nice results. Maybe these doubters on here will start to believe the numbers. Can you reveal the cam specs? TFS heads are really impressive.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PunkNPonys
Very nice results. Maybe these doubters on here will start to believe the numbers. Can you reveal the cam specs? TFS heads are really impressive.
I believe the numbers, **** did 451/414 on my self built 232/236 cam with TEA stage 3 heads untuned. 500 is believable on the TFS heads with a larger cam and the few boltons I dont have like a ported FAST(mines unported).
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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man these #S are REAL, all the haters need to stop hating.
Its not like 1 shop had these results from trickflow heads.

When I came into vette docs they were doubting all the hype also and said dont be upset if you dont make 480+. They were thinking more like 450-460 with no fast, no pullies, and normal tpis longtubes. Well the combo impressed them and I and made sick power. These trickflow heads flow that well.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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By "full exhaust" do you include cats?

Still numbers I would like to have, by the way, haha.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Damn Ron, this is now two or three cars you guys have done that did not surpass the 500 RWHP mark. What are you guys doing? Slacking up or somethin'?? In all seriousness, it's great to hear about cars coming out of your shop. Keep up the great work guys and I hope to have some better numbers for you to talk about before the end of the month.
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Very very nice! im considering the vandicator!
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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As i always say impressive numbers guys so awesome job vengeance crew again

peace
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Originally Posted by Juiced
Great numbers Ron,

You might want to research another option for those HS rockers, I know they are needed because of the sweep patter across the valve tip but they do cost you about 15-20hp up top because of the weight.


They would only cost power if the extra weight caused valve float, and you can tell my looking at the graph they didnt.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Juiced
Great numbers Ron,

You might want to research another option for those HS rockers, I know they are needed because of the sweep patter across the valve tip but they do cost you about 15-20hp up top because of the weight.
I call BS and would loved to be proved wrong. Nice numbers Ron. The 72K mile shortblock is not going to help power as well as a fresh 20K mile dyno shortblock.
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Did you reflash your Dynojet 224 again?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kraest
Did you reflash your Dynojet 224 again?
Your comments in EVERY thread I post are not only not wanted, but do nothing for the content of the thread...

Why dont you bring your lil C5 over and see if it hits 530 on our dyno... I have a feeling it might hurt your feelings

Find a hobby
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