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Old 11-23-2017, 10:32 AM
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Im sure this has been beaten to death over the last 15 years. Heres where im at. I was geting ready to have a cam installed in my car. I will be paying someone to put it in, with parts labor, looking at $1500-2k. I would love to have a supercharger but have read stock lt1s dont last long. My 97 has 37k miles. I see used superchargers online for around 2k. I could probably install that myself. Even at low boost that would make more horsepower than a cam and around the same price. the car will be driven maybe 1500 miles a year. I figure if it last me a few years, i could get a short block built for boost from Carl ellwein for around $5500 then really turn it up. I would prefer boost over a big heads/cam car just for stock drivability. Just a car to cruise in, but when i floor it, i want it to take off!
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Stock LT1's with superchargers that are properly tuned and are not over-boosted will last as long as a non-boosted engine.

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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Stock LT1's with superchargers that are properly tuned and are not over-boosted will last as long as a non-boosted engine.

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cool, good to hear. from reading it looks like 6lbs should be safe?
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Get a meth system and a good tune and 6-8 psi should be good to go.
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Its your weekend driver. Why not slap a supercharger on it, make it safe so it'll last. If and when it blows up, rebuild it. No big deal.
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I have been running a Procharger 10 lbs for four years. It is not a daily driver, just a toy. I am a safe tune (only 16 degrees of timing) and use methanol.
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Originally Posted by 4K+Converter
Its your weekend driver. Why not slap a supercharger on it, make it safe so it'll last. If and when it blows up, rebuild it. No big deal.
basically what im thinking
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Originally Posted by ringmaster72
I have been running a Procharger 10 lbs for four years. It is not a daily driver, just a toy. I am a safe tune (only 16 degrees of timing) and use methanol.
thats what i want to hear. is there a certain meth kit to use?
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I believe they all use the same pump. I had an Alcohol Injection Systems for a year, then switched to the Devils Own setup. No problems with either one, but Devile own has a fitting that installs in the washer fluid tank without having to access the inside of the tank.
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IMO the best meth kit is Alkycontrol.
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I'm planning the same and only wanting ~400hp/400tq to be highly useful at autocross and fun on the street. Game plan is meth kit with no intercooler etc to save on complexity/piping.
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Good intercooler, and a properly sized fuel system, do not see the need for drowning your motor in meth.
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man this is getting expensive, might have to go back a cam install,lol
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Good intercooler, and a properly sized fuel system, do not see the need for drowning your motor in meth.
man-crush is correct, and don't mount it parallel to the ground where zero air can move through it. Supposedly 7.5#'s is the sweet spot on a stock engine. Don't get greedy.
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Good intercooler, and a properly sized fuel system, do not see the need for drowning your motor in meth.
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man-crush is correct, and don't mount it parallel to the ground where zero air can move through it. Supposedly 7.5#'s is the sweet spot on a stock engine. Don't get greedy.
I'm purposely only shooting for 400 at the wheels. So next step is to properly size a blower that will work for me. I'm not one to chase HP numbers on a dyno. I know the rear end/clutch and stock motor will get upset real quick. I may get a slightly large blower to keep it from working too hard = less heat and still have room to grow with a new motor build. Going to be a long project, but so far it's looking feasible.

I'm just scratching the surface on the idea of PD blowers. Much to learn and figure out.
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Originally Posted by smitty2919
I'm purposely only shooting for 400 at the wheels. So next step is to properly size a blower that will work for me. I'm not one to chase HP numbers on a dyno. I know the rear end/clutch and stock motor will get upset real quick. I may get a slightly large blower to keep it from working too hard = less heat and still have room to grow with a new motor build. Going to be a long project, but so far it's looking feasible.

I'm just scratching the surface on the idea of PD blowers. Much to learn and figure out.
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I'm planning the same and only wanting ~400hp/400tq to be highly useful at autocross and fun on the street. Game plan is meth kit with no intercooler etc to save on complexity/piping.
can easily do that with a vortech s or t trim and meth. Tune is the key. Buddy of mine got 130k out of his at up to 11 psi. Stock longblock. Lots of hard miles but a great tune kept it together
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My goal will be a deadly reliable setup, so the tune takes as long as it takes to get right.
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Originally Posted by smitty2919
I'm purposely only shooting for 400 at the wheels.
Should be obtainable with 7psi. Just know your torque is going to be high as well and your clutch/rear may notice the difference...
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Around 6-7 psi is fine on a stock engine as long as the tune is good, you have plenty of fuel and some sort of charge cooler.
This should go without saying, but a set of coated long tubes and full exhaust should be considered compulsory with a supercharger install. You'll need a set of ~42lb injectors also. A small cam and the requisite valvetrain upgrades typically yields an easy 470-500rwhp on a safe tune when paired with a blower.

How long it will last depends a lot on how you drive and maintain it. Obviously, maintenance is important with any supercharged or extensively modded car. You can definitely have some fun in how you drive it, but if it's constantly flogged (particularly in hot weather) it will have a significantly shorter life.

I know people who blew their stock LT1s with boost in less than 2 months, and I also know a couple whose motors have lived for 10 years or more with boost. None have been daily drivers.
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Originally Posted by HellTeeOne
Around 6-7 psi is fine on a stock engine as long as the tune is good,
This too is mightily important. Get it on a chassis dyno and wide band instead of mail order.



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