520rwhp stock bottom LS1(6)....
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520rwhp stock bottom LS1(6)....
I'm posting this in this section for the guys who don't frequent the dyno section....
Thought I'd share my stock bottom LS1(6) results. Been together several years and moving on now. So decided to share it...will give me something to look back at and remember the fun and aggravation I went through.
04Z
38K stock bottom (of course flycut)
Modified Vararam
NW 102TB
Fast 102 (massaged by Tooley)
Deka 80lbers (pump E85)
TEA 243's (hand finished by Brian)
Stock rockers with trunnion upgrade
NGK TR6
Trend 3/8" 0.080" wall single piece pushrods
0.027" cometic
Cam = EPS 23x/25x 63x/61× on a 11x (very stable lobes, Cam Motion core)
Comp drop in short travel lifters (set at 0.010" cold)
Moroso vacuum pump (7" at idle/ 21" at max rpm)
Mezerie elec water pump
LG 1 7/8" super pros with 3" X-pipe and dynomax bullets
Would usually shift somewhere around 7700rpm
Car had a massaged T56, RXT/ Fidanza and 4.10 gear
I'm sure I have forgotten something... lol
Car would trap 132+ in crappy +1000' DA @ 3000lbs-ish
Be happy to answer any questions or comments...
Here is one of many dyno graphs...made roughly 520/440
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Thought I'd share my stock bottom LS1(6) results. Been together several years and moving on now. So decided to share it...will give me something to look back at and remember the fun and aggravation I went through.
04Z
38K stock bottom (of course flycut)
Modified Vararam
NW 102TB
Fast 102 (massaged by Tooley)
Deka 80lbers (pump E85)
TEA 243's (hand finished by Brian)
Stock rockers with trunnion upgrade
NGK TR6
Trend 3/8" 0.080" wall single piece pushrods
0.027" cometic
Cam = EPS 23x/25x 63x/61× on a 11x (very stable lobes, Cam Motion core)
Comp drop in short travel lifters (set at 0.010" cold)
Moroso vacuum pump (7" at idle/ 21" at max rpm)
Mezerie elec water pump
LG 1 7/8" super pros with 3" X-pipe and dynomax bullets
Would usually shift somewhere around 7700rpm
Car had a massaged T56, RXT/ Fidanza and 4.10 gear
I'm sure I have forgotten something... lol
Car would trap 132+ in crappy +1000' DA @ 3000lbs-ish
Be happy to answer any questions or comments...
Here is one of many dyno graphs...made roughly 520/440
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Last edited by LSOHOLIC; 06-22-2018 at 10:51 AM.
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theoretically, the IRS eats a little more power so in an fbody we could guess that he would have made about 526-530. would it be wrong to guess despite his cam being huge, that the vacuum pump could be responsible for a good 8-11 rwhp on this setup? finding 500 rwhp ls1 cars can be tough to find let alone 525+. the huge cam could be contributing 15-20 more than your typical ls1 with a cam, but everything else besides the pump is pretty typical. this is a LLSR cam id guess?
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theoretically, the IRS eats a little more power so in an fbody we could guess that he would have made about 526-530. would it be wrong to guess despite his cam being huge, that the vacuum pump could be responsible for a good 8-11 rwhp on this setup? finding 500 rwhp ls1 cars can be tough to find let alone 525+. the huge cam could be contributing 15-20 more than your typical ls1 with a cam, but everything else besides the pump is pretty typical. this is a LLSR cam id guess?
Secondly, cam is definitely a healthy size...but by know means huge. Hell its smaller than a infamous cam only T-rex...lol
We did pull the vacuum pump belt off to see what it was worth. Of course there is zero or little gain until you get it up into its sweet spot...up in the rpm range..like 5500+ before we saw any gain from the pump (6hp peak). The vacuum pump was put on because I was tired of blowing the dipstick out going down the track.
Like I said, the combo was put together race, not a dyno queen and make the most average power in a given rpm range (other cams I've had made more peak power but were slower at the track).
Power under the curve is what's fast...not a peaky dyno queen...;-) We worked real hard to flatten out the curve !!
Not a low lash deal at all....stock rockers should give that away...
Thanks for the feedback...
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Last edited by LSOHOLIC; 06-22-2018 at 10:48 AM.
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I used to feel the same way....lol
With this being a late 04 engine....my research says there's a good chance it had the better rods (bolts) & wristpins in it....but not sure.
IMO, the only thing you could hurt is the rod bolts or possibly the wristpins with rpm. And that's only on the exhaust stroke.
Guess, in my mind...it was a calculated risk...;-)
Thanks for the feedback..
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With this being a late 04 engine....my research says there's a good chance it had the better rods (bolts) & wristpins in it....but not sure.
IMO, the only thing you could hurt is the rod bolts or possibly the wristpins with rpm. And that's only on the exhaust stroke.
Guess, in my mind...it was a calculated risk...;-)
Thanks for the feedback..
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Outstanding job with your build! Congratulations!
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Originally Posted by LSOHOLIC
Thanks man....
I'm a n/a guy at heart...so moving on to a turbo is going to be fun...but
I will always wonder how much better it could have been...LLSR, better manifold, better heads...etc...the list never ends !!
Thanks...
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I'm a n/a guy at heart...so moving on to a turbo is going to be fun...but
I will always wonder how much better it could have been...LLSR, better manifold, better heads...etc...the list never ends !!
Thanks...
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That probably answers your better heads, manifolds, LLSR question anyway.
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