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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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any meziere water pump fans? what numbers?
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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It gained me right around 0rwhp.. yes, ZERO. I wish I had that $500 back to spend on a tubular K member. I also crapped away the same amount on a set of Yella Terra Rockers that are currently residing in my garage in a box
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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I bolted mine on with the car still strapped to the dyno so that I could get a precise before and after reading. It picked up about 3 RWHP and 6 RWTQ.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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wow those are some gay numbers. i guess i may get tubular from end instead
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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0 rwhp right here as well!
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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It wasn't all that bad on the LT-1 cars cause the pumps were half the price and took the stock pump off the cam. As far as LS-1's go, you gain minimal power cause you aren't reducing much friction plus the price is more than doubled because you are buying a whole housing.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
It gained me right around 0rwhp.. yes, ZERO. I wish I had that $500 back to spend on a tubular K member. I also crapped away the same amount on a set of Yella Terra Rockers that are currently residing in my garage in a box

You didn't see any HP from the YT's?? I noticed a big difference...I smoked my clutch when I installed them...and I also noticed a big difference in gas mileage...to my surprise it got better. I would say next to the LS6 intake..that was the best mod for the money.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chevysrule94
You didn't see any HP from the YT's?? I noticed a big difference...I smoked my clutch when I installed them...
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Honestly!!!! I sold the first set cause I needed cash....but I just bought another set.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Did you dyno after you installed them?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Is it safe to assume that everyone that didn't gain any horsepower or minimal gains were using the street style pump?
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Is it safe to assume that everyone that didn't gain any horsepower or minimal gains were using the street style pump?
Mine was a street pump. I don't see how a race pump would free up anymore HP.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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doesnt free up much at all but makes it alot easier to fill the coolant and you can cool your car real quick on dyno or at the track
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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In addition to weak HP gains, you get a bonus! Short waterpump life! Woohoo. That's what I really want...a water pump that might fail after a few thousand miles. Does the pump at least come with a disclaimer, "not recommended for street use"? Weak. It's probably better to buy the power steering underdrive pulley (I have heard some people say that they have run it with an underdrive crank pulley with no issues...but I don't know if I would really run both...).
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In addition to weak HP gains, you get a bonus! Short waterpump life! Woohoo. That's what I really want...a water pump that might fail after a few thousand miles. Does the pump at least come with a disclaimer, "not recommended for street use"? Weak. It's probably better to buy the power steering underdrive pulley (I have heard some people say that they have run it with an underdrive crank pulley with no issues...but I don't know if I would really run both...).

Yea, for $600....it's definitely not worth it. Who knows how long it will last...my luck it would break when I'm 300miles away from home.
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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I'm putting the race version on my upcoming drag car. Not so much for any hp gains, but just so that I can circulate the engine coolant with the engine off while i'm in the staging lanes or pits. If you have a manual fan switch and that pump, you can drop the engine temps pretty quickly.
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Everyone looks at a electric waterpump for Horsepower, you have no idea how quickly these cool your car down between runs. Engine temps drop like i never seen with one of these. If i had a race only car, this would be a must
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gomer
Mine was a street pump. I don't see how a race pump would free up anymore HP.
I honestly have no idea if the race version free'd up any more horsepower on my car because we did so much at once (removed P/S, cam, U/D Pulley), but I figure having one less pulley to spin one would have a minimal gain (5-6rwhp).

I know the street version pulley acts as more of an idler pulley because it is not pushing any water, but even so the street version would still give some kind of resistance. I have read the pulley acts similar to a fan to cool the electric motor (please correct me if I am wrong) and pushing that air around would certainly build some resistance.

We went with the race version because we were not planning on running any other accessories except for the alternator, and the HVAC had already been removed so we did not need the provisions for the heating.

I've driven the car in stop and go traffic, on the freeway, and at the track and the motor stays at the same temperature no matter what. In fact I don't think I remember hearing the secondary fan kick on since we installed the pump. It deffinately cools the motor as well as advertised, and if anything else it gives the motor a nice clean look.



P.S. Gomer, with all the time you've spent on the dyno, i'm surprised you haven't done a back to back comparison of the two. Keep up the good work, and its awesome to see you got your car down to the track.
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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hwo do you keep the belt tight on the race pump?
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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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